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Xeni Jardin from Boing Boing is canceling her NYT subscription (for Nazi normalization) and confessing she was part of the Epstein 'tech-geek' cult. I have never liked her since she always had time for South Park (the ground zero alt-right breeding-cesspool) during the first decade of America's WARS OF TERROR.
Alan Moore from Watchmen, renounced his lifetime of anarchism to promote Labour during the recent election. Labour suffered the biggest defeat since WWII.
I was never cool enough to be an anarchist. My goal was simply not to be a sucker, and to make sure none of my students got suckered. That's why I'm a leftist and not a lib.
Neil Gaiman's writing odes to Odin and Free Speech and other pet topics of the alt-right. Forgive him lord he knows not what he does - he too is a liberal. Does Micheal Moorcock still live in Texas learning the difference between the libertarian right and left?
So the anarchists, tech-mutants. mystics and corporate story-tellers are either impotent, co-opted or so dense they are writing books on Norse Mythology to grab a some sweet 'alt-Right' cash.
I'm not shocked at Fortress America. I lived through the garbage cultures of the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s. Now I've read the history books too, and I can do 1890s, 1660s, and 1950s too. America wants the cocaine-buzz of frontier profits to never end, the dawn to never come. This is the specter still haunting liberalism.
Alan Moore from Watchmen, renounced his lifetime of anarchism to promote Labour during the recent election. Labour suffered the biggest defeat since WWII.
I was never cool enough to be an anarchist. My goal was simply not to be a sucker, and to make sure none of my students got suckered. That's why I'm a leftist and not a lib.
Neil Gaiman's writing odes to Odin and Free Speech and other pet topics of the alt-right. Forgive him lord he knows not what he does - he too is a liberal. Does Micheal Moorcock still live in Texas learning the difference between the libertarian right and left?
So the anarchists, tech-mutants. mystics and corporate story-tellers are either impotent, co-opted or so dense they are writing books on Norse Mythology to grab a some sweet 'alt-Right' cash.
I'm not shocked at Fortress America. I lived through the garbage cultures of the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s. Now I've read the history books too, and I can do 1890s, 1660s, and 1950s too. America wants the cocaine-buzz of frontier profits to never end, the dawn to never come. This is the specter still haunting liberalism.
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Oh look - more lawless killing from the Evil Empire to start the new year.
The media story is that the Pentagon offered Trump the option of assassinating a top Iranian general but assumed he would not pick it, but "by late Thursday, the president had gone for the extreme option. Top Pentagon officials were stunned."
Mark Ames has the right analysis:
Go back through these notes and you'll find this is also my long-standing analysis of Trump - his 'aberrational' framing makes him ultimately disposal, his is a weapon to be used by the neo-cons in the Pentagon and then discarded as a 'exception' to the 'normal liberal' US empire. The opposite is true: Trump is as American as George Washington - both were racists real-estate speculators with a penchant for bullying and slaughter.
The liberals' constant cry of "Trump is a Russian Agent and Not a US President!" means they think the US's endless imperial crimes (coups, invasions and assassinations across South America, Europe, West Asia and China) are being committed in essence by a non-American with no governmental-backing! This framing encourages a aura of 'non-responsibility' and therefore opportunity. Trump is a political 'purge day' (or 'red hour' as we SF nerds might say...) for the worst elements of the US.
The media story is that the Pentagon offered Trump the option of assassinating a top Iranian general but assumed he would not pick it, but "by late Thursday, the president had gone for the extreme option. Top Pentagon officials were stunned."
Mark Ames has the right analysis:
The shameless ass-covering leaks suggest that US military-intelligence deliberately goaded Trump into whacking Suleimani to settle old scores, and now they want us to pin all the blame on Trump and absolve themselves from the coming shitstorm.
Keep telling yourself Trump is some kind of aberration. Empire is violence and it rewards the cruelest & rottenest among us
Go back through these notes and you'll find this is also my long-standing analysis of Trump - his 'aberrational' framing makes him ultimately disposal, his is a weapon to be used by the neo-cons in the Pentagon and then discarded as a 'exception' to the 'normal liberal' US empire. The opposite is true: Trump is as American as George Washington - both were racists real-estate speculators with a penchant for bullying and slaughter.
The liberals' constant cry of "Trump is a Russian Agent and Not a US President!" means they think the US's endless imperial crimes (coups, invasions and assassinations across South America, Europe, West Asia and China) are being committed in essence by a non-American with no governmental-backing! This framing encourages a aura of 'non-responsibility' and therefore opportunity. Trump is a political 'purge day' (or 'red hour' as we SF nerds might say...) for the worst elements of the US.
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And to be clear, the US assassination of General Suleimani was not just a crime but a mistake. An err, a poor move, a reckless bet that backfires.
Let's turn to George Orwell's 1984 and its tips on running Empire
General Suleimani just entered the history books as a a truly beloved Iranian martyr. The US logic must be that will force the Iran to take a wild stab at revenge so the US Empire can reclaim the role of 'victim' but....
Here is a video claiming to show the US Empire martyring Suleimani - it is a video of absolute overkill and arrogance.
"Naturally all the glory belonged to the victim and all the shame to the Inquisitor who burned him."
Naturally.
Let's turn to George Orwell's 1984 and its tips on running Empire
1984 - Chapter 3 wrote:Later, in the twentieth century, there were the totalitarians, as they were called. There were the German Nazis and the Russian Communists. The Russians persecuted heresy more cruelly than the Inquisition had done. And they imagined that they had learned from the mistakes of the past; they knew, at any rate, that one must not make martyrs.
General Suleimani just entered the history books as a a truly beloved Iranian martyr. The US logic must be that will force the Iran to take a wild stab at revenge so the US Empire can reclaim the role of 'victim' but....
1984 - Chapter 3 wrote:The first thing for you to understand is that in this place there are no martyrdoms.
You have read of the religious persecutions of the past. In the Middle Ages there was the Inquisition. It was a failure. It set out to eradicate heresy, and ended by perpetuating it. For every heretic it burned at the stake, thousands of others rose up. Why was that? Because the Inquisition killed its enemies in the open, and killed them while they were still unrepentant: in fact, it killed them because they were unrepentant. Men were dying because they would not abandon their true beliefs. Naturally all the glory belonged to the victim and all the shame to the Inquisitor who burned him.
Here is a video claiming to show the US Empire martyring Suleimani - it is a video of absolute overkill and arrogance.
"Naturally all the glory belonged to the victim and all the shame to the Inquisitor who burned him."
Naturally.
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https://ejmagnier.com/2020/01/05/fragmentation-in-the-axis-of-resistance-led-to-soleimanis-death/
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iran-war-us-iraq-trump-general-qassem-soleimani-airstrike-a9269301.html
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/06/qassem-suleimani-killing-united-iran/
It was not the US decision to fire missiles against the IRGC commander Brigadier General Qassem Soleimani that killed the Iranian officer and his companions in Baghdad. Yes, of course, the order that was given to launch missiles from the two drones (which destroyed the two cars carrying Sardar Soleimani and his companion the Iraqi commander in al-Hashd al-Shaabi Jamal Jaafar Al-Tamimi aka Abu Mahdi al-Muhandes and burned their bodies in the vehicle) came from US command and control. However, the reason President Donald Trump made this decision derives from the weakness of the “axis of resistance”, which has completely retreated from the level of performance that Iran believed it was capable of after decades of work to strengthen this “axis”.
In Iraq, Major General Soleimani was very patient and never lost his temper. He was trying to reconcile the Iraqis, both his allies and those who had chosen the US camp and disagreed with him. He used to hug those who shouted at him to lower tensions and continue dialogue to avoid spoiling the meeting. Anyone who raised his voice during discussions soon found that it was Soleimani who calmed everyone down."]
Soleimani, although he was the leader of the “Axis of the Resistance”, was sometimes called “the king” in some circles because his name evokes Solomon. According to sources within the “Axis of the Resistance”, he “never dictated his own policy but left a margin of movement and decision to all leaders of the axis without exception. Therefore, he was considered the link between this axis and the supreme leader Sayyed Ali Khamenei. Soleimani was able to contact Sayyed Khamenei at any time and directly without mediation. The Leader of the revolution considered Soleimani as his son.
According to sources, in Syria, Soleimani “never hesitated to jump inside a truck, ride an ordinary car, take the first helicopter, or travel on a transport or cargo plane as needed. He did not take any security precautions but used his phone (which he called a companion spy) freely because he believed that when the decision came to assassinate him, he would follow his destiny. He looked forward to becoming a martyr because he had already lived long.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iran-war-us-iraq-trump-general-qassem-soleimani-airstrike-a9269301.html
General Soleimani died in the wake of his greatest failure and misjudgement. But the manner of his killing may convince many Shia Iraqis that the threat to Iraqi independence from the US is greater than that from Iran. The next few days will tell if the protest movement, which has endured the violence used against it with much bravery, will be deflated by the killings at Baghdad airport.
Wars are reputedly won by generals who make the fewest mistakes. General Soleimani made a bad mistake over the last three months by turning a modest protest into something close to a mass uprising. Trump may have made an even worse mistake by killing General Soleimani and making Iraq, a place where Iran has far more going for it than the US, the arena in which the rivalry between these two powers will be fought out.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/06/qassem-suleimani-killing-united-iran/
It was the Western media profiles of Suleimani that made him really famous among ordinary people. They were frequently translated and published in Iran, both online and in the papers, beginning with Dexter Filkins’s New Yorker profile of Suleimani in 2013. With the threat of the Islamic State looming in Syria, Suleimani was seen as a protective figure by the public, which was terrified of the brutally anti-Shiite Islamic State. The Iranian media rapidly picked up on his popularity, as did the government, resulting in more information on him being leaked.
At the same time as Iranians were fearfully consuming graphic Islamic State videos of beheadings, Iranian media reports quoting security officials or Western media about how Suleimani was striving to bring down the empire of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi were highly popular. Videos showing Suleimani on the front lines of the fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria went viral. A previously largely unknown commander became a symbol of courage and nationalism and a heroic figure who had put his neck on the line to protect the country. His popularity surged drastically, placing him in 2015 and 2016 on a par with Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, also extremely popular, who reached a nuclear deal with the West.
Amid all these calls, he called himself a “soldier of the revolution,” rejecting conservative plans to run him as a candidate. He was certainly highly electable. According to a 2019 University of Maryland survey, 82 percent of Iranians held a positive view of Suleimani and 59 percent a highly positive view—far exceeding any other Iranian figure. But that popularity continued, in part, exactly because he avoided entering domestic politics and abusing his reputation.
That’s why millions of people have poured onto the streets of Tehran to commemorate him, including many who oppose the Islamic Republic in other circumstances. This was not just limited to the public; notable figures including the 2009 opposition leader Mehdi Karroubi, who has been under house arrest for a decade; the great Iranian novelist Mahmoud Dowlatabadi; the former political prisoner Abdollah Momeni; the actor Navid Mohammadzadeh; and the prominent London-based journalist Masoud Behnoud expressed their sympathies over the death of Suleimani. Most of them have been seriously critical of the political system over many issues, including the deaths of hundreds of people in recent protests across Iran, but they differentiate between Suleimani and others.
Some Americans have recognized this. In the BBC documentary Shadow Commander: Iran’s Military Mastermind, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the special operations chief during George W. Bush’s presidency, says, “I don’t think we should view him as an evil person. I think we should view him just like I believe in my country. I think Qassem Suleimani believes in his country.”
Suleimani’s heroic image makes his death much more costly for the United States. If a high-ranking military commander whom nobody liked had been killed, things would have been different. Instead, an Iranian government weakened by recent protests has been revived following the assassination of Suleimani. A formerly divided people is now standing firmly behind a government it was fiercely protesting weeks ago.
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I don't really care about any military figure - they chose a life of murder, I raise no toasts to them.
Still, I understand the necessity of dealing with violence. And I have a natural human sympathy for underdogs and martyrs.
All of it is a macabre ritual - America punching Iran in the side of the head every month, Iran tossing sand and pebbles back - the US is clearly waiting for a substantially fatal Iranian counter-attack so they can play the victim and do an air-raid. No one is stupid enough to invade. There are hard limits on even neo-con ambitions; they want to be audacious in their provocations to start something while Trump - their ultra-malleable, fall-guy - is still in power, but Iraq 2003 did teach some very hard lessons.
The ancient empires of Persia and China are wearing the frightening masks of Shia Islam and Maoist Communism because those are the forms needed to resist the power of the Anglo-American techo-empire.
I saw a tweet saying "Iran is just as expansionist as the USA" and it represented all the brain-rot of America. The word 'expansionist' is their euphemism for 'imperialism', and their comparison of USA's global empire to Iran regional ambitions is laughable, but that's the serious cognitive distortion needed to support the Anglo-American Empire.
Still, I understand the necessity of dealing with violence. And I have a natural human sympathy for underdogs and martyrs.
All of it is a macabre ritual - America punching Iran in the side of the head every month, Iran tossing sand and pebbles back - the US is clearly waiting for a substantially fatal Iranian counter-attack so they can play the victim and do an air-raid. No one is stupid enough to invade. There are hard limits on even neo-con ambitions; they want to be audacious in their provocations to start something while Trump - their ultra-malleable, fall-guy - is still in power, but Iraq 2003 did teach some very hard lessons.
The ancient empires of Persia and China are wearing the frightening masks of Shia Islam and Maoist Communism because those are the forms needed to resist the power of the Anglo-American techo-empire.
I saw a tweet saying "Iran is just as expansionist as the USA" and it represented all the brain-rot of America. The word 'expansionist' is their euphemism for 'imperialism', and their comparison of USA's global empire to Iran regional ambitions is laughable, but that's the serious cognitive distortion needed to support the Anglo-American Empire.
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MY RESOURCES
ex-FBI perspective, Sibel Edmonds
ex-Marine Perspective, Scott Ritter
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/iranian-revenge-will-be-a-dish-best-served-cold/
“Elijah J. Magnier is a veteran war-zone correspondent and political analyst with over 35 years of experience covering the Middle East and North Africa (MENA). He specializes in real-time reporting of politics, strategic and military planning, terrorism and counter-terrorism"
https://ejmagnier.com/2020/01/05/fragmentation-in-the-axis-of-resistance-led-to-soleimanis-death/
Two from the venerable libertarian website Antiwar.Com
https://original.antiwar.com/scott/2020/01/05/iraq-war-iv/
https://original.antiwar.com/danny_sjursen/2020/01/05/who-started-it-litigious-a-reverse-timeline-of-us-iran-retaliations/
veteran Washington/Military reporter, Gareth Porter
https://truthout.org/articles/lies-about-iran-killing-us-troops-in-iraq-are-a-ploy-to-justify-war/
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/pompeos-gulf-of-tonkin-incident/
Adam Johnson, great media criticism since the Iraq Occupation years
http://massforshutins.libsyn.com/022-iran-with-adam-johnson-of-citations-needed
The only 'war nerd' I trust - most 'Nat-Sec' analysis (esp. twitter accounts) are embarrassing.
My favorite economist, Micheal Hudson, a man who managed to work in the elite echelons of banking yet did not have his soul removed and replaced with a festering demon-parasite. From Mesopotamian debt forgiveness to USA's SuperImperialism, I've learnt from his work.
http://thesaker.is/america-escalates-its-democratic-oil-war-in-the-near-east/
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Looking over this list, I feel spoiled for all the great analysts I've learnt from over the last 20 years: Edmonds, 'War Nerd', Porter, antiwar.com, FAIR (Adam Johnson), Hudson. The proper use of the internet is phenomenal for research and understanding - but the sure evilness and volume of the mass media just nullifies it. These are some of people who shaped what I consider to be "reason" as in "reasonable sociopolitical analysis". They would be my personal prosecuting team in 'Civilization V. The USA'
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Toronto has a very large Iranian community and there have already been clashes between the pro-Trump and Pro-Iran factions. Watching the videos are interesting because the anti-Iranians are wearing Trump MAGA hats and waving American flags, also they interview a Iranianwho literally echoes the neo-con propaganda of calling Iran "malevolent " - "malevolent " is a great word but it has become some sort of codeword when discussing Iran.
There are the pro-Iran crowd standing under a statute of people as the pillars of justice.
Here are the pro-Trump crowd using the US Flag as their weapon of choice
Here is an aggressive MAGA-hat punk finally getting confronted by the TO police. He was genuinely surprised that a cop stopped his 'MAGA asshole' LARPing.
Having 'fought' the TO police many times in street battles, I know there are some good members in it... (aka just want no violence, won't stir up more trouble by being assholes themselves)
Here is the guy spouting Neo-Con talking points "Iran is Malevolent. All Democracies Hate Iran. Iran has ambitions.ect..." Confused why the a "Human Rights" guy is endorsing a criminal assassination condemned by all the civilized world? Well - that's the Anglo-American way: "We kill you because we are morally better than you." From Victorian Chauvinism to Spanish-America War to Jimmy Carter to
Iraq and Libya being turnt into post-apocalyptic slave-markets so "they would be free of oppression". This dude writes editorials for the NATIONAL POST telling Canada to invade Iran, he's in Woolsey territory, meaning he's a full-blown "neo-con liberal".
HAHAHAHAHA~!The Liberal Party of Canada is such a hive of neo-con losers, no wonder they can barely beat the actual (neo)Conservative Party. His title is "senior fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute", a NGO that is openly a branch of CIA propaganda (NED-funded, neocon talking points). Their website is always good for a laugh, I first heard of them when they were propagandist team promoting the "ISIS burnt down Notre Dame cathedral" conspiracy! Macdonald-Laurier Institute does that level of sloppy propaganda, so I guess it is targeted at boomers or pre-teens.
Here is someone's comment on a National Post article by the malevolent HR dude: "I did some research on the background of the columnist. It seems that he holds past grudges against some of his diaspora because they didn't back him for the 2015 elections.It's not Canada's business to meddle with everything in the world and shouldn't get into these fights." [https://nationalpost.com/opinion/kaveh-shahrooz-its-time-to-ramp-up-the-pressure-on-iran-heres-how#comments-area]
Informants and CIA sources are always traitors - it is the first job requirement, you must betray those around you and ally with the US.
So the pro-US Iranians in Toronto are a combination of MAGA punks and Liberal candidates! Both are virulent strains of Neo-conservatism.
We already summoned and banished this the 2-headed Demongorgon, three years ago ... I'm already through the looking-glass on this one.
There are the pro-Iran crowd standing under a statute of people as the pillars of justice.
Here are the pro-Trump crowd using the US Flag as their weapon of choice
Here is an aggressive MAGA-hat punk finally getting confronted by the TO police. He was genuinely surprised that a cop stopped his 'MAGA asshole' LARPing.
Having 'fought' the TO police many times in street battles, I know there are some good members in it... (aka just want no violence, won't stir up more trouble by being assholes themselves)
Here is the guy spouting Neo-Con talking points "Iran is Malevolent. All Democracies Hate Iran. Iran has ambitions.ect..." Confused why the a "Human Rights" guy is endorsing a criminal assassination condemned by all the civilized world? Well - that's the Anglo-American way: "We kill you because we are morally better than you." From Victorian Chauvinism to Spanish-America War to Jimmy Carter to
Iraq and Libya being turnt into post-apocalyptic slave-markets so "they would be free of oppression". This dude writes editorials for the NATIONAL POST telling Canada to invade Iran, he's in Woolsey territory, meaning he's a full-blown "neo-con liberal".
HAHAHAHAHA~!The Liberal Party of Canada is such a hive of neo-con losers, no wonder they can barely beat the actual (neo)Conservative Party. His title is "senior fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute", a NGO that is openly a branch of CIA propaganda (NED-funded, neocon talking points). Their website is always good for a laugh, I first heard of them when they were propagandist team promoting the "ISIS burnt down Notre Dame cathedral" conspiracy! Macdonald-Laurier Institute does that level of sloppy propaganda, so I guess it is targeted at boomers or pre-teens.
Here is someone's comment on a National Post article by the malevolent HR dude: "I did some research on the background of the columnist. It seems that he holds past grudges against some of his diaspora because they didn't back him for the 2015 elections.It's not Canada's business to meddle with everything in the world and shouldn't get into these fights." [https://nationalpost.com/opinion/kaveh-shahrooz-its-time-to-ramp-up-the-pressure-on-iran-heres-how#comments-area]
Informants and CIA sources are always traitors - it is the first job requirement, you must betray those around you and ally with the US.
So the pro-US Iranians in Toronto are a combination of MAGA punks and Liberal candidates! Both are virulent strains of Neo-conservatism.
We already summoned and banished this the 2-headed Demongorgon, three years ago ... I'm already through the looking-glass on this one.
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Here are the major points
1 ) The neo-cons want war with Iran. There is no legal reason, except the 2001 Authorization-of-Use-of-Military-Force that the US gave to itself saying it could do whatever it wanted. All these wars are criminal actions according to UN and customary international law.
2 ) The neo-cons are an alliance of the Israeli Right and the American military-industrial complex.
3 ) Trump is allied with neo-cons and his own philosophy is partially neo-conservative. Trump has posed as both anti- and pro-war - but his neo-con blood always shines through and his impeachment feeds into his reliance on the neo-cons.
4 ) Trump has waged a offensive against Iran to destroy it - he has pulled out of the nuclear treaty, embargoed the country into starvation, and assassinated its' leaders.
5 ) The goal is force a desperate Iran to openly retaliate against one of these insults, so Trump can clutch his pearls and play the 'vengeful victim' trope. Bullies love to play the victim.
6 ) Let's call this this the "Forcing Pearl Harbour" tactic.
7 ) Iran is not a broken country like Iraq was in 2003. The recent assassination will only solidify popular support for the government. A ground-war is out of the questions. [Another option is that Iraq become a proxy battleground]
8 ) So....
9 ) When Iran retaliates, Trump will launch air-strikes - maybe with tactical nukes to get to Iranian bunkers. A few nights of fireworks and dead kids.
10 ) This would seem to the American 'deep states' plan.
The real factor is whether a nuclear power will protect Iran on not. If you don't have nuclear weapons, the US will attack you until you are dead - this is the Libyan lesson. Will Russia and China stand-by as Iran's head is held underwater until it stops moving? Or will they simply be happy that the bully is not focused on them for the moment. Has Hong Kong neutralized China? Are the Russians satisfied with stopping neo-con ambitions in Syria?
The USA is hoping that the real lesson learned from WWII is that it is too costly to stop fascist aggression, especially a fascist power with the world's 2nd largest collection of nuclear weapons* so no-one will try to stop them. The world may see this calculation put to the test.
*The Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 6,500 nuclear weapons, while the United States has 6,185.
Pick up the gun!
So this is the situation: the US keeps trying to goad the Iranians into any obvious retaliation to justify a bombing run. The Iran had refused to bite and play the American game - instead making subtle moves and retaliations - that's why the US has been forced to escalated to crude criminality; in most ways the Iran government have won this round of the battle simply by forcing the US to take such a blunt action, because the assassination has unified public support.
With US elections looming in less than a year, the Iranians could just sit back and wait - revenge will come at some point but they don't seem like they "will pick up the gun." The neo-cons may still have to 'false-flag' this one to fit it in their time-frame. If the Democrats run Joe Biden to throw the election, this could give Trump some breathing space...
1 ) The neo-cons want war with Iran. There is no legal reason, except the 2001 Authorization-of-Use-of-Military-Force that the US gave to itself saying it could do whatever it wanted. All these wars are criminal actions according to UN and customary international law.
2 ) The neo-cons are an alliance of the Israeli Right and the American military-industrial complex.
3 ) Trump is allied with neo-cons and his own philosophy is partially neo-conservative. Trump has posed as both anti- and pro-war - but his neo-con blood always shines through and his impeachment feeds into his reliance on the neo-cons.
4 ) Trump has waged a offensive against Iran to destroy it - he has pulled out of the nuclear treaty, embargoed the country into starvation, and assassinated its' leaders.
5 ) The goal is force a desperate Iran to openly retaliate against one of these insults, so Trump can clutch his pearls and play the 'vengeful victim' trope. Bullies love to play the victim.
6 ) Let's call this this the "Forcing Pearl Harbour" tactic.
7 ) Iran is not a broken country like Iraq was in 2003. The recent assassination will only solidify popular support for the government. A ground-war is out of the questions. [Another option is that Iraq become a proxy battleground]
8 ) So....
9 ) When Iran retaliates, Trump will launch air-strikes - maybe with tactical nukes to get to Iranian bunkers. A few nights of fireworks and dead kids.
10 ) This would seem to the American 'deep states' plan.
The real factor is whether a nuclear power will protect Iran on not. If you don't have nuclear weapons, the US will attack you until you are dead - this is the Libyan lesson. Will Russia and China stand-by as Iran's head is held underwater until it stops moving? Or will they simply be happy that the bully is not focused on them for the moment. Has Hong Kong neutralized China? Are the Russians satisfied with stopping neo-con ambitions in Syria?
The USA is hoping that the real lesson learned from WWII is that it is too costly to stop fascist aggression, especially a fascist power with the world's 2nd largest collection of nuclear weapons* so no-one will try to stop them. The world may see this calculation put to the test.
*The Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 6,500 nuclear weapons, while the United States has 6,185.
Pick up the gun!
So this is the situation: the US keeps trying to goad the Iranians into any obvious retaliation to justify a bombing run. The Iran had refused to bite and play the American game - instead making subtle moves and retaliations - that's why the US has been forced to escalated to crude criminality; in most ways the Iran government have won this round of the battle simply by forcing the US to take such a blunt action, because the assassination has unified public support.
With US elections looming in less than a year, the Iranians could just sit back and wait - revenge will come at some point but they don't seem like they "will pick up the gun." The neo-cons may still have to 'false-flag' this one to fit it in their time-frame. If the Democrats run Joe Biden to throw the election, this could give Trump some breathing space...
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Judd Legum @JuddLegum wrote:The Sunday talk shows on NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN featured SEVEN guests who voted for or publicly supported the Iraq War 2003 and NONE who publicly opposed it.
As there was no repentance or responsibility enforced on the war-propagandists but instead plenty of cash and careers, why does anyone expect anything but more wars?
My proposal in 2007 was to violate my own opposition to capital punishment and publicly hang a few key politicians and media CEOs. The hope was to 'scare straight' the growing class of neo-liberal fascists so they would return to rule of law. North Americans elites decided the exact opposite and all the war-mongers 'failed upwards' into management and key positions.
The current Anglo-American culture is one that no human of good will can endorse. It is achieving heights of imperial arrogance and consumerist egotism that only a technological-assisted civilization could achieve.
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So the internet polling on George Galloway's TV show was intriguing. Less than 50% (47%) of the votes thought Britain should oppose war with Iran, with one quarter wanting to ally with Trump, and the other quarter wanting an feckless neutrality. Wouldn't be hard to hack that vote but it does make we wonder...
In failing capitalism, a growing number of young men will vote for the mass socialism of war as a solution to their employment concerns, young mothers will vote for war in hopes of forcing tribal unity, a significant number are full-blown edgelord fascists or sociopathic 'little sharks' raised by a sadistic and judgemental bourgeoisie. And someone keeps voting the Republicans and Conservatives into power. This is the Anglo-American culture produced by hyper-capitalism and neo-imperialism.
We want war. Any war. To solve our problems.
War as a force that brings meaning to our lives and profits to our bank accounts.
The Alt-Right is complaining about the "reflexive anti-West" bias of "The Left". What they cannot see is that we complain because we are the true heirs of the West. Socrates compared himself to a horsefly, he wasn't there to comfort the powerful - all the Petersonites are too busy making their beds and binge-watching Youtube to carry on this tradition. We carry on the Enlightenment tradition of humanism and secularism in a spirit of good will towards our fellow living creatures. And that has tradition has *nothing* to do with Trump, South Park on any alt-Right grifters that came racing out of their holes over the last 3 years. How exactly does the callous promotion of having corporations explode shrapnel into human flesh fit into this tradition? US hegemony is not the foundation of civilization - it is easy to make the opposite case with every passing day...
If you are over 40, have no major neurological impairments, and still believe that these bizarro, media-driven, pseudo-fascist, neo-colonial wars are "justified" - you are objectively an immoral person. That's right, I'm no post-modernist, you are objectively by the traditional tools of civilization a "bad human". I'm sorry but I didn't make these rules, and neither did the Americans.
We made our way from Matter to Life to Advanced Life to Humans. Domesticating ourselves now is actually the easy part, don't let Trump shake you. This system might need to crash, wars may rage, suffering and chaos; the history books are instructive. A full-out nuclear winter would add a few hundred years of regression. It took us 6 million to move ur-Chimp to Human, 60 million for proto-Chimp to split from "tree-squirrels".
If all that Western Culture has left is a retread of Teddy Roosevelt racial imperialism, fundamentalist christianity and unfettered capitalism, we might as well turn off the lights cause our culture died before WWI even broke out.
I think the deep problem in North American "white" culture, especially the Rightwingers, is that they envy Iranian fundamentalist belief, their combination of church+state, their martyrdom heroics, they underdog fight against a US-backed Saddam, their underdog fight to resist Israel and to save Syria, and now they must deeply envy their unified mourning.
I can remember watching the Saint Reagan state-burial in 2004 and was surprised to see crowds of Black Americans watching the procession go by - but once the procession passed they all crossed the street, they had just been waiting for the road-blockage to clear! As the corporate priesthood sang their adoring hosannas to a dead spokes-model and FBI snitch, the locals could not give a fig.
...
I'm glad I only come on the internet once or twice a week because this is definitely a drug. Come in and pull on the cybernetic fiction-suit. The info flow is a torrent, the public sphere electrified, the politics as good or bad as your sources. And it does give such a gnostic rush. Too bad it is mostly used for semi-evil.
In failing capitalism, a growing number of young men will vote for the mass socialism of war as a solution to their employment concerns, young mothers will vote for war in hopes of forcing tribal unity, a significant number are full-blown edgelord fascists or sociopathic 'little sharks' raised by a sadistic and judgemental bourgeoisie. And someone keeps voting the Republicans and Conservatives into power. This is the Anglo-American culture produced by hyper-capitalism and neo-imperialism.
We want war. Any war. To solve our problems.
War as a force that brings meaning to our lives and profits to our bank accounts.
The Alt-Right is complaining about the "reflexive anti-West" bias of "The Left". What they cannot see is that we complain because we are the true heirs of the West. Socrates compared himself to a horsefly, he wasn't there to comfort the powerful - all the Petersonites are too busy making their beds and binge-watching Youtube to carry on this tradition. We carry on the Enlightenment tradition of humanism and secularism in a spirit of good will towards our fellow living creatures. And that has tradition has *nothing* to do with Trump, South Park on any alt-Right grifters that came racing out of their holes over the last 3 years. How exactly does the callous promotion of having corporations explode shrapnel into human flesh fit into this tradition? US hegemony is not the foundation of civilization - it is easy to make the opposite case with every passing day...
If you are over 40, have no major neurological impairments, and still believe that these bizarro, media-driven, pseudo-fascist, neo-colonial wars are "justified" - you are objectively an immoral person. That's right, I'm no post-modernist, you are objectively by the traditional tools of civilization a "bad human". I'm sorry but I didn't make these rules, and neither did the Americans.
We made our way from Matter to Life to Advanced Life to Humans. Domesticating ourselves now is actually the easy part, don't let Trump shake you. This system might need to crash, wars may rage, suffering and chaos; the history books are instructive. A full-out nuclear winter would add a few hundred years of regression. It took us 6 million to move ur-Chimp to Human, 60 million for proto-Chimp to split from "tree-squirrels".
If all that Western Culture has left is a retread of Teddy Roosevelt racial imperialism, fundamentalist christianity and unfettered capitalism, we might as well turn off the lights cause our culture died before WWI even broke out.
I think the deep problem in North American "white" culture, especially the Rightwingers, is that they envy Iranian fundamentalist belief, their combination of church+state, their martyrdom heroics, they underdog fight against a US-backed Saddam, their underdog fight to resist Israel and to save Syria, and now they must deeply envy their unified mourning.
I can remember watching the Saint Reagan state-burial in 2004 and was surprised to see crowds of Black Americans watching the procession go by - but once the procession passed they all crossed the street, they had just been waiting for the road-blockage to clear! As the corporate priesthood sang their adoring hosannas to a dead spokes-model and FBI snitch, the locals could not give a fig.
...
I'm glad I only come on the internet once or twice a week because this is definitely a drug. Come in and pull on the cybernetic fiction-suit. The info flow is a torrent, the public sphere electrified, the politics as good or bad as your sources. And it does give such a gnostic rush. Too bad it is mostly used for semi-evil.
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/06/trump-administration-blocks-iran-foreign-minister-zarif-addressing-un-security-council/
This is the dirty game that an Inquisition who just created a powerful martyr must play.
Add in some bot-swarm social media smearing too, I'm sure.
Is this the part where they nail 'King of the Jews' above his head?
I watched the hashtag soar to 250,000 then turn-off like it was on a tap. The MAGA-hat Iranian crowd in Toronto look pretty ugly and had to be restrained by police...
Even if we accept that the US is doing "the Crazy Don" scenario but this is as ugly as can be. Historically ugly - in a chain of American ugliness that stretches back to the Puritan Slavers who founded it.
So far Trump has promised to destroy 52 cultural targets in Iran (one for each hostage held 40 years ago....), declared that his announcement by Twitter were Presidential law, VP Pence blamed 9/11 on Iran, and now the victims of a criminal assassination are being barred from even addressing the UN.
American Exceptionalism is a hell of a drug.
Hey Trump-bioys, here's your vaunted "Land of Free Speech" in all it's glory. Here's your Big White Father sworn to protect the sacred Western value of Free Speech. The Marketplace of Ideas where you stand your altar. Lord knows, you screamed about "Free Speech" for the last 3 years over the smallest of stupid issues, how you ranted against "Political Correctness", oh! such rants! - so now I'll listen for your voices now, when it counts, when lives are on the line....
Here is the vaunted 'free speech' of Western Civilization: Iranian diplomats barred from the 'global forum' of the UN ... Iranian Prime Minister blocked from Twitter .... anti-Trump memes blocked from FACEBOOK...
Remember the moral panic over pronouns? Remember when Trumpism arrived and all these venal right-wingers claiming to "save the Western Value of Free Speech from Cultural Marxism and Political-Correctness" - and the liberals that lapped it up?
Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council
Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif had sought to give a speech condemning the U.S. assassination of Qassem Suleimani- violating the terms of a 1947 headquarters agreement requiring Washington to permit foreign officials into the country to conduct U.N. business, according to three diplomatic sources.
This is the dirty game that an Inquisition who just created a powerful martyr must play.
Add in some bot-swarm social media smearing too, I'm sure.
Is this the part where they nail 'King of the Jews' above his head?
Marc Owen Jones @marcowenjones wrote:
Some strange, but unsurprising things about the incredibly voluminous hashtag "Iranians Detest Soleimani" (via @maasalan ), I sampled around 60,000 tweets from around 9753 account using the hashtag. The most common noun among biographies was "Make America Great Again" & "Trump"
I watched the hashtag soar to 250,000 then turn-off like it was on a tap. The MAGA-hat Iranian crowd in Toronto look pretty ugly and had to be restrained by police...
Even if we accept that the US is doing "the Crazy Don" scenario but this is as ugly as can be. Historically ugly - in a chain of American ugliness that stretches back to the Puritan Slavers who founded it.
So far Trump has promised to destroy 52 cultural targets in Iran (one for each hostage held 40 years ago....), declared that his announcement by Twitter were Presidential law, VP Pence blamed 9/11 on Iran, and now the victims of a criminal assassination are being barred from even addressing the UN.
American Exceptionalism is a hell of a drug.
But even before the current crisis, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in recent months had sought to restrict the ability of Zarif—a skilled debater who has studied in the United States and has extensive contacts with American journalists—to make his case to the American public
Hey Trump-bioys, here's your vaunted "Land of Free Speech" in all it's glory. Here's your Big White Father sworn to protect the sacred Western value of Free Speech. The Marketplace of Ideas where you stand your altar. Lord knows, you screamed about "Free Speech" for the last 3 years over the smallest of stupid issues, how you ranted against "Political Correctness", oh! such rants! - so now I'll listen for your voices now, when it counts, when lives are on the line....
Here is the vaunted 'free speech' of Western Civilization: Iranian diplomats barred from the 'global forum' of the UN ... Iranian Prime Minister blocked from Twitter .... anti-Trump memes blocked from FACEBOOK...
Remember the moral panic over pronouns? Remember when Trumpism arrived and all these venal right-wingers claiming to "save the Western Value of Free Speech from Cultural Marxism and Political-Correctness" - and the liberals that lapped it up?
Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif called US President Donald Trump's decision to order the drone strike that killed the country's top military commander an act of "state terrorism" in an interview with CNN Tuesday..."This is an act of aggression against Iran and amounts to an armed attack against Iran, and we will respond. But we will respond proportionally not disproportionally," he said. "We will respond lawfully, we are not lawless people like President Trump."
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Reza Marashi Verified account @rezamarashi wrote:"So many of Trump's top advisors on Iran are military vets who served multiple tours of duty in our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. They believe to their core that Iran is the reason why they lost those wars, and they're dead set on payback - no matter what it takes."
This is the core driver of fascism: males revenging a military loss. WWI breed Hitlerism. Vietnam breed a simmering US fascism that led to the 'Reagan Revolution' and emerged in 9/11 to launch more failed wars that have lead to the Trumpist fascists of today.
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As tempting as a another day on the internet is, I think the binge/purge cycle is healthier. Lots of input means lots to process.
I'm still thinking about RLM's melancholy review of the final Star Wars film, it was almost a requiem for Liberal America: the people were nice, but a lack of planning, and a even more devastating lack of humanism & soul, left us with much hype and SPX signifying nothing but profits. And now it's over and the public is sick of it.
Time for some processing - I'll be back this weekend. PAX
I'm still thinking about RLM's melancholy review of the final Star Wars film, it was almost a requiem for Liberal America: the people were nice, but a lack of planning, and a even more devastating lack of humanism & soul, left us with much hype and SPX signifying nothing but profits. And now it's over and the public is sick of it.
Time for some processing - I'll be back this weekend. PAX
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I rather write up a final analysis now and enjoy the weekend. So...
A read once that in studying the US Civil War you go through 4 stages: first, the war is clearly about slavery; next step, the war is really about States Rights or Congressional Politics; in the third stage; you reading diaries and realize that wars was really about a general's flaring hemorrhoids; then finally you understand that the war was about slavery. That's how I feel about most US aggression and oil; the deeper you look the more complicated it gets, but it is still about oil because oil keeps the US dollar afloat, the US dollar is more accurately called 'petro-dollars' because of this. The US dollar was a 'gold-dollar' until 1971 when European allies started asking for the 'gold' part; now it is a petro-dollar with corresponding geopolitical alliances to the Saudi royal family to sustain it.
So the US does not need oil - what it needs to do is maintain global dependence on oil-energy and the dollar-currecny which are currently inseparable. Planetary fossil fuel dependence and wars in oil-rich areas are built into this plan. The list of major oil producing counties is a list of US dependents and US enemies, the worst US enenmies are those countries that dared to 'nationalize' their oil and give some of the profits to the government: Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Chile, Libya, Iraq. Similarly those countries also tried to escape dollar-dominance by starting their own oil and gold-backed currencies, this was the major factor in the destruction of Iraq and Libya; Iraq had moved to a 'petro-EURO' instead of 'petro-dollar' and Libya was creating a pan-African gold-backed currency when NATO & ISIS destroyed that state and took all its gold. When Iran attempted to start their own non-dollar oil trading market, someone used a sub to cut the internet cable to the country.
Externally 'Nationalizing Oil' and 'De-dollarizing' will trigger massive US retaliation. Internally the burning fuses of war are Neo-conservatism, Anglo-American Imperial-Capitalism and cultural Fascism.
Neo-conservatism can be a broad tent but the basic elements are clear: support for Israel, support for the Military-Industrial Complex, and a cover of 'Human Rights' to justify the war-crimes the support for the first two entails. Neither Isreal nor US weapon-builders want the US to become isolationist and retreat from the world stage as their massive state funding would dried up, so in the post-Vietnam era they allied together in Washington to keep the taps open. Despite beginning on the Democratic side of the aisle they have wielded the most power in Republican administrations and have so influenced American politics - especially through think-tanks and semi-fascist rhetoric - that since 1980 that much of their wild rhetoric ('war of civilizations', 'juedo-christian heritage', 'provocative weakness', Arab racism, 'cruise-missile liberalism') is now accepted wisdom. Israeli control of many American Congress-critters is well documented, the methods are $$$, media, threats on 'anti-sementism' and old-fashioned Epstein-style sexual blackmail. Israel is by no means the only country that owns a few US politicans (Turkey has a surprising number) but it dominates this field to an almost comical extent - with elderly congressmen acting like teenage fangirls when venal Isreali Prime Minister arrive.
The two main US regional allies in West Asia are fundamentalist Saudi Arabia and apartheid Israel who are allied to each other in one of the stranger partnerships. For example, the Saudis fund ISIS militas who are given tactical supported by the Israel IDF when they are attacking oil-fields in Syria. The tie that binds Saudi Arabia and Israel is the deeper ties both countries had to Britian, for it was the British Empire that installed the House of Saud in Arabia and the Zionists in Palestine around WWI, and America has inherited these relationship as the Britain Empire collapsed post-WWII. This passing of the torch is concretely illustrated by the 1953 joint CIA-MI6 coup of Iran after it dared nationalized its' oil, three years later when Britain tried an invasion of Egypt (Suez Canal) without the US, the US told them to stop. The former rebellious colony was now the primary partner in the Anglo-American Empire and has maintained the historical ties to both the Al-Saudis and Zionists; trump's term has seen wildly shifting alliances but those two countries remain the pillars of US's West Asian policy.
Currently the US Empire is exerting 'Full Spectrum Dominance' by launching CIA-funded Fundamentalist Christian coups in Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil and CIA-funded 'democracy activists' in Hong Kong, getting Canada to arrest a Chinese CEO, and of course, massive military spending, "unleashing" the CIA and waging economic trade-wars.
Cultural Fascism is again a broad concept but if you grew up in the dark shadow of the American media I'm sure you know what I'm referring. The endless tales of 'justified revenge', the ubiqitious gun violence, the 24h stream of cop shows, the dehumanizing game-shows and nihilist cartoons. Deeper than these is a colonial mentality that made it's fortune enslaving the local, using a evil form of racalized slavery, slaughter animals, polluting whole ecosystems; the frontier profits transformed to a vigorous Imperialism that having nearly genocided internal resistance turned to conquering Cuba, Hawaii, Puerto Rico before becoming the planetary super-power after WWII. This all happened in less than 500 years and most of it in the last 150 years, and it has left a core normalization of dehumanization, dominance, guns and aggression that has never been civilized; and the losing wars of Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria have created a crisis of masculinity that adds toxic fuel to those deep underground fire. A poll today shows that 47% of Americans approve of a criminal assassination announced over Twitter while only 40% disapprove; earlier polls show support for Trump always seems to achieve the same 47% - this is the classic fascist 'cult of the strongman'. This is a objectively a toxic culture.
In further analysis the US I would also focus on the classics of Capitalism (especially the curse of over-production, the explosive nonsense of finance capitalism, massive consumer debt and the staffing of the US Treasury by only Goldman-Sachs employees since the 1990s) and Christianity (the evangelical movement *is* the Republican Party and many of Trump's top staff attend daily pray meeting and bible studies) - but I will leave that for another time.
In 1979 Iran had a revolution and re-took their oil field from the Anglo-American Empire; the revolution was Islamic because the mosques were one of the few safe places from the Iran secret police but it was primarily a nationalist revolt. Since they Iran has had a policy of allying with the US and Isreal as needed but also militarily confronting those powers - especially when they the US allied with Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War - but ultimately it is Iran's oil independence, it's attempts to create de-dollarized oil markerts and it's firm resistance to Zionism and Saudi jihadist that make it the Neo-Con's target. All of this tension was heightened by the US invasion of Iraq which destroyed Iran's key enemy and saw much of the Iraqi population ally with Iran; with Iran emerging as the greatest benefactor of the invasion, the Neo-Cons tried in 2006 to begin a war with Iran but the Iraqi insurgency keep US forces tied down.
The Obama Whitehouse killed the Libyan state when it tried to de-dollarize and left it mess, they then purchased a 'colour coup' in Ukraine that left that country still a broken mess, and made a deal with Iran to prevent them acquiring nuclear weapons in an age where having nuclear weapons in the only deterrence the US recognizes. Despite this, the Iranians figured a peace treaty was better than nuclear deterrence and signed on after lengthy negotiations. The Obama kept doing 'soft power' attacks on Iran, like Israel-assisted cyberattacks on nuclear research facilities, purchasing protesters and funding ethnic divisions. Trump and his rotating gaggle of neo-cons immediately tore up the Iran peace treaty and began full-scale economic warfare backed by tweeted threats of a military holocausts. I call this the 'Crazy Don' tactic, in reference to the Soviet 'Crazy Ivan' submarine tactics of randomly taking wild maneurves to throw off enemy analysis; it also reference the idea of a 'Mafia Don' who is said to be so crazy and uncontrollable by those around him that he best be appeased be all. How much is Don Trump's personality and how much is a deep state strategy is unknown. The fixation on Iran has been at the heart of neo-conservatism (and their think-tanks) since Iraq's destruction and Trump has been full-throated in this support of this policy. The combination of Obama 'soft power' (preventing nukes while trying to topple the Iranian state with CIA-coups) and Trumpian 'hard power' of threats and strangulation had severely stressed Iranian society - and the seeming success of these former strategies is what makes this assassination so dangerous, it was a provocative move that will has massively unified the Iranian population in support of their government and has secured wide amount of regional support for Iran. The cost of this assassination was high to the US as years of fomenting cultural dissent and coup formation have been wiped out, up to that point Trump's war against Iran had alienated feckless European states which seem to be of less consequence. And because the assassination attack took place inside of Iraq and killed an Iraqi officer it has also alienated many Iraqi politicans. So why the US took this action is the key question, and here are some of the possible answers:
1) Having tried and failed to topple Syria after it was supported by Iran and Russia, Israel and the US have taken increasingly bold moves in the region: Israeli planes bomb targets inside Syria, Trump launched cruise missiles into Syria, a Russian plane was shoot-down and Israel intelligence has conducted many of its signature operations: targeted assassinations. Trump complete devotion to Israel - the gifting of the Golan Heights to them being one of many riches they have received and Israel has reciprocated by naming it's streets after Trump - has only further embolden Israel to seek another US military adventure in the region.
2) General Soleimani was deeply coordinating the fight to save Syria from ISIS. To give an example of this and Soleimani's populatity, here is a quote from an ex-Army Intelligent Colonel
Soleimani saved Christians, Muslims, Jews and secular Syrians from the Saudi Arabian ISIS head-choppers. This is the reality on the ground in Syria and why killing him will unify many around Iran. Soleimani worked with Americans as needed to defeat ISIS, full well knowing that America vacillates between arming and giving air-support to ISIS and bombing them. The killing of Soleimani will allow ISIS breathing space to regroup and become the US's proxy force again.
3) The key aftermath of this assassination is that Iran must respond. Soleimani was both a cultural and military lynch-pin, that feeling for revenge will run high, this is what the US wants, some sort of clear Iranian with American casualties that will allow Trump to do a bombing run. Between economic strangulation, blatant killings of generals, apocalyptic threats, Iranians are right to be scared - and angry at those who think nothing of threatening their wives with bombs and starving their children with sanctions. In this lens, the massive up-swelling of popular support the Iran states has might make it more to take a risk.
4) I don't see impeachment going anywhere but there is an election in November. Trump's recent tweets about "as long as he is in the White House Iran won't get nukes" and his recent lackluster speeches suggest a man worried about re-election. The idea of being a 'war-time president' for election purposes is not new - it drove Bush Jr. to launch his insane folly in Iraq - so we should keep an eye on how much domestic politics drive foreign criminal adventures.
Iran's oil nationalization, attempts to de-dollarize and resistance to the Anglo-American-Israeli Empire, combined with its lack of nuclear weapons, make it the USA's main target. Iran's fundamental crime is national independence.
With this target assassination the US has burnt most of the 'soft power' tentacles they had in Iran, what they bought at this high price was first, a severe degrading of Iran's ability to fight ISIS and project force when neighbour ask for assistance, and second, the increased likelihood that Iran will retaliate and cause American causalities, justifying further US retaliation.
The Neo-Cons have been planning this like they planned Iraq. Trump has ripped up the nuclear treaty, levied a massive economic embargo, and declared all Iran special forces (the IRGC) as 'legitimate terrorists to be killed' which is how they justified the current assassination - these were all neo-con ideas as promoted through their think-tanks. On January 1st 2020, arch neo-con James Woolsey appeared on TV to suggest "we ought to target all of the facilities of the IRGC", two days later, Trump order Gen. Soleimani, the head of the IRGC, to be assassinated. Woolsey has said that they are not thinking on a ground war but a massive bombing run.
The state of US civil society (media, courts, politics, Democratic party) is so pathetic and quasi-fascist that the majority of Americans who answered a poll supported Trump ordering his made-men to wack a major Iranian leader. Trump's rally are a combination of WWF and evangelical pomp, where he spews his brand of 'populist Neo-conservatism' and Republican voters lavish adoration upon Their Dear Leader. There are 350 anti-war protests too - but they will not make a dent or even be reported by the news. The Democratic Party enables the whole sick game, portraying themselves as Moderate Republicans and using MI5-written smears to go after Trump, the mere fact Joe Biden is still a front-runner is a testament to the Democrats being a corpse of a party that seems welling to let the 'Crazy Don' scenario play to the bitter end.
The world stage is harder to read. Russia and China are no friend of the US but might be glad to see it get tied down in West Asia. There has been a re-alignment for Turkey and Qatar toward Iran which might be making Israel nervous.
And that commercial plane crash that occurred between Iran and Ukraine on the night of Iran symbolic shelling of a US base in Iraq? Who knows? I won’t want to be the Flight Investigator on that crash as the conspiratorial minds just reels at the possibilities. If it was just mechanical error no one will believe it - but if it truly was I would place responsibility of their deaths on Trump’s doorstep at minimum for embargoing and starving a country. If it was terrorism or military misfire, I would blame Trump for aggressively destabilizing the country.
The media has gone from 'WWIII!' to 'All is Well' in a week, and I can never disagree with de-escalation, but there is nothing in this analysis that suggests this provocation (or false-flag) won't re-occur until a bombing strike on Iran occurs. Since the assassination has ruled out any popular uprising the most a bombing campaign could do, if ignore Trump's barbaric threat to attack cultural sites, is attack miliatary sites and oil infra-structure to which Iran would respond by attacking Saudi oil production and ships carrying oil through the Persian Gulf. The US wants to control global oil supplies to keep their dollar safe; currently there is too much oil, major fracking and less global energy demand because of (still going) 2008 economic depression have driven prices down. The USA has taken all the Iranian and Venezuelan oil off the market through sanctions and the Saudi's war against Yemen and Qatar has hurt their production, whereas fracking has made the USA world's greatest oil producer again. Any Gulf war would send oil prices sky-rocketing; the corresponding truth is that peace sends prices tumbling - like they did today.
There is a chance this might be like Trump's launching of cruise missles into Syria in April 2017 - a one-time criminal show of strength to satisfy certain foreign and domestic factions. The main facts against this are the heavy neo-con investment in striking Iran and the malleability and disposability of Trump. There are almost no internal forces against this strike: the Republicans are Christian Fascists, the Democrats are hopelessly corrupt, there is some portion of Trump's base that is "anti-war" but they seem to make no difference to the core "47%" who will support Trump up to and including "the Rapture" to save "the Holy Land & the Homeland". The Europeans don't want the war but refuse to take any strong principled stand on the matter - appeasing Trump has largely been their response.
So the real questions are 1) does Iran have a credible non-nuclear threat that can dissuade the US? 2) Will Iran's regional allies support Iran in a conflict with the US? 3) Will China and Russia take any action to prevent or escalate this attack?
Gerald Horne's analysis of the current state of African-Americans would seem also to equally apply to the North American leftists and anti-war advocates: without international support they is not much to be optimistic about - and there isn't enough international support at this moment.
The most likely short-term outcome is that Iraq becomes a proxy battleground between the US and Iran - just as Afghanistan became a US-Russian proxy battleground in 1980 - until some conflict triggers another US attack during the run-up to the election. The US justified the assassination of a powerful Iranian general because a single military contractor, a U.S. citizen born in Iraq, was killed by a rocket fired by some milita, this shows Trump can and will make anything into his casus belli.
Background
A read once that in studying the US Civil War you go through 4 stages: first, the war is clearly about slavery; next step, the war is really about States Rights or Congressional Politics; in the third stage; you reading diaries and realize that wars was really about a general's flaring hemorrhoids; then finally you understand that the war was about slavery. That's how I feel about most US aggression and oil; the deeper you look the more complicated it gets, but it is still about oil because oil keeps the US dollar afloat, the US dollar is more accurately called 'petro-dollars' because of this. The US dollar was a 'gold-dollar' until 1971 when European allies started asking for the 'gold' part; now it is a petro-dollar with corresponding geopolitical alliances to the Saudi royal family to sustain it.
So the US does not need oil - what it needs to do is maintain global dependence on oil-energy and the dollar-currecny which are currently inseparable. Planetary fossil fuel dependence and wars in oil-rich areas are built into this plan. The list of major oil producing counties is a list of US dependents and US enemies, the worst US enenmies are those countries that dared to 'nationalize' their oil and give some of the profits to the government: Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Chile, Libya, Iraq. Similarly those countries also tried to escape dollar-dominance by starting their own oil and gold-backed currencies, this was the major factor in the destruction of Iraq and Libya; Iraq had moved to a 'petro-EURO' instead of 'petro-dollar' and Libya was creating a pan-African gold-backed currency when NATO & ISIS destroyed that state and took all its gold. When Iran attempted to start their own non-dollar oil trading market, someone used a sub to cut the internet cable to the country.
Externally 'Nationalizing Oil' and 'De-dollarizing' will trigger massive US retaliation. Internally the burning fuses of war are Neo-conservatism, Anglo-American Imperial-Capitalism and cultural Fascism.
Neo-conservatism can be a broad tent but the basic elements are clear: support for Israel, support for the Military-Industrial Complex, and a cover of 'Human Rights' to justify the war-crimes the support for the first two entails. Neither Isreal nor US weapon-builders want the US to become isolationist and retreat from the world stage as their massive state funding would dried up, so in the post-Vietnam era they allied together in Washington to keep the taps open. Despite beginning on the Democratic side of the aisle they have wielded the most power in Republican administrations and have so influenced American politics - especially through think-tanks and semi-fascist rhetoric - that since 1980 that much of their wild rhetoric ('war of civilizations', 'juedo-christian heritage', 'provocative weakness', Arab racism, 'cruise-missile liberalism') is now accepted wisdom. Israeli control of many American Congress-critters is well documented, the methods are $$$, media, threats on 'anti-sementism' and old-fashioned Epstein-style sexual blackmail. Israel is by no means the only country that owns a few US politicans (Turkey has a surprising number) but it dominates this field to an almost comical extent - with elderly congressmen acting like teenage fangirls when venal Isreali Prime Minister arrive.
The two main US regional allies in West Asia are fundamentalist Saudi Arabia and apartheid Israel who are allied to each other in one of the stranger partnerships. For example, the Saudis fund ISIS militas who are given tactical supported by the Israel IDF when they are attacking oil-fields in Syria. The tie that binds Saudi Arabia and Israel is the deeper ties both countries had to Britian, for it was the British Empire that installed the House of Saud in Arabia and the Zionists in Palestine around WWI, and America has inherited these relationship as the Britain Empire collapsed post-WWII. This passing of the torch is concretely illustrated by the 1953 joint CIA-MI6 coup of Iran after it dared nationalized its' oil, three years later when Britain tried an invasion of Egypt (Suez Canal) without the US, the US told them to stop. The former rebellious colony was now the primary partner in the Anglo-American Empire and has maintained the historical ties to both the Al-Saudis and Zionists; trump's term has seen wildly shifting alliances but those two countries remain the pillars of US's West Asian policy.
Currently the US Empire is exerting 'Full Spectrum Dominance' by launching CIA-funded Fundamentalist Christian coups in Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil and CIA-funded 'democracy activists' in Hong Kong, getting Canada to arrest a Chinese CEO, and of course, massive military spending, "unleashing" the CIA and waging economic trade-wars.
Cultural Fascism is again a broad concept but if you grew up in the dark shadow of the American media I'm sure you know what I'm referring. The endless tales of 'justified revenge', the ubiqitious gun violence, the 24h stream of cop shows, the dehumanizing game-shows and nihilist cartoons. Deeper than these is a colonial mentality that made it's fortune enslaving the local, using a evil form of racalized slavery, slaughter animals, polluting whole ecosystems; the frontier profits transformed to a vigorous Imperialism that having nearly genocided internal resistance turned to conquering Cuba, Hawaii, Puerto Rico before becoming the planetary super-power after WWII. This all happened in less than 500 years and most of it in the last 150 years, and it has left a core normalization of dehumanization, dominance, guns and aggression that has never been civilized; and the losing wars of Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria have created a crisis of masculinity that adds toxic fuel to those deep underground fire. A poll today shows that 47% of Americans approve of a criminal assassination announced over Twitter while only 40% disapprove; earlier polls show support for Trump always seems to achieve the same 47% - this is the classic fascist 'cult of the strongman'. This is a objectively a toxic culture.
In further analysis the US I would also focus on the classics of Capitalism (especially the curse of over-production, the explosive nonsense of finance capitalism, massive consumer debt and the staffing of the US Treasury by only Goldman-Sachs employees since the 1990s) and Christianity (the evangelical movement *is* the Republican Party and many of Trump's top staff attend daily pray meeting and bible studies) - but I will leave that for another time.
2020 Assassination
In 1979 Iran had a revolution and re-took their oil field from the Anglo-American Empire; the revolution was Islamic because the mosques were one of the few safe places from the Iran secret police but it was primarily a nationalist revolt. Since they Iran has had a policy of allying with the US and Isreal as needed but also militarily confronting those powers - especially when they the US allied with Iraq in the Iran-Iraq War - but ultimately it is Iran's oil independence, it's attempts to create de-dollarized oil markerts and it's firm resistance to Zionism and Saudi jihadist that make it the Neo-Con's target. All of this tension was heightened by the US invasion of Iraq which destroyed Iran's key enemy and saw much of the Iraqi population ally with Iran; with Iran emerging as the greatest benefactor of the invasion, the Neo-Cons tried in 2006 to begin a war with Iran but the Iraqi insurgency keep US forces tied down.
The Obama Whitehouse killed the Libyan state when it tried to de-dollarize and left it mess, they then purchased a 'colour coup' in Ukraine that left that country still a broken mess, and made a deal with Iran to prevent them acquiring nuclear weapons in an age where having nuclear weapons in the only deterrence the US recognizes. Despite this, the Iranians figured a peace treaty was better than nuclear deterrence and signed on after lengthy negotiations. The Obama kept doing 'soft power' attacks on Iran, like Israel-assisted cyberattacks on nuclear research facilities, purchasing protesters and funding ethnic divisions. Trump and his rotating gaggle of neo-cons immediately tore up the Iran peace treaty and began full-scale economic warfare backed by tweeted threats of a military holocausts. I call this the 'Crazy Don' tactic, in reference to the Soviet 'Crazy Ivan' submarine tactics of randomly taking wild maneurves to throw off enemy analysis; it also reference the idea of a 'Mafia Don' who is said to be so crazy and uncontrollable by those around him that he best be appeased be all. How much is Don Trump's personality and how much is a deep state strategy is unknown. The fixation on Iran has been at the heart of neo-conservatism (and their think-tanks) since Iraq's destruction and Trump has been full-throated in this support of this policy. The combination of Obama 'soft power' (preventing nukes while trying to topple the Iranian state with CIA-coups) and Trumpian 'hard power' of threats and strangulation had severely stressed Iranian society - and the seeming success of these former strategies is what makes this assassination so dangerous, it was a provocative move that will has massively unified the Iranian population in support of their government and has secured wide amount of regional support for Iran. The cost of this assassination was high to the US as years of fomenting cultural dissent and coup formation have been wiped out, up to that point Trump's war against Iran had alienated feckless European states which seem to be of less consequence. And because the assassination attack took place inside of Iraq and killed an Iraqi officer it has also alienated many Iraqi politicans. So why the US took this action is the key question, and here are some of the possible answers:
1) Having tried and failed to topple Syria after it was supported by Iran and Russia, Israel and the US have taken increasingly bold moves in the region: Israeli planes bomb targets inside Syria, Trump launched cruise missiles into Syria, a Russian plane was shoot-down and Israel intelligence has conducted many of its signature operations: targeted assassinations. Trump complete devotion to Israel - the gifting of the Golan Heights to them being one of many riches they have received and Israel has reciprocated by naming it's streets after Trump - has only further embolden Israel to seek another US military adventure in the region.
2) General Soleimani was deeply coordinating the fight to save Syria from ISIS. To give an example of this and Soleimani's populatity, here is a quote from an ex-Army Intelligent Colonel
Pat Lang wrote:Someone sent me the news tape linked below from Aleppo in NW Syria. I have watched it a number of times. You need some ability in Arabic to understand it. The tape was filmed in several Christian churches in Aleppo where these two men (Soleimani and al-Muhandis) are described from the pulpit and in the street as "heroic martyr victims of criminal American state terrorism."
Pompeo likes to describe Soleimani as the instigator of "massacre" and "genocide" in Syria. Strangely (irony) the Syriac, Armenian Uniate and Presbyterian ministers of the Gospel in this tape do not see him that way. They see them as men who helped to defend Aleppo and its minority populations from the wrath of Sunni jihadists like ISIS and the AQ affiliates in Syria. They see them and Lebanese Hizbullah as having helped save these Christians by fighting alongside the Syrian Army, Russia and other allies like the Druze and Christian militias.
It should be remembered that the US was intent on and may still be intent on replacing the multi-confessional government of Syria with the forces of medieval tyranny. Everyone who really knows anything about the Syrian Civil War knows that the essential character of the New Syrian Army, so beloved by McCain, Graham and the other Ziocons was always jihadi and it was always fully supported by Wahhabi Saudi Arabia as a project in establishing Sunni triumphalism. They and the self proclaimed jihadis of HTS (AQ) are still supported in both Idlib and western Aleppo provinces by the Saudis and the present Islamist and neo-Ottoman government of Turkey.
Well pilgrims, there are Christmas trees in the newly re-built Christian churches of Aleppo and these brothers and sisters in Christ remember who stood by them in "the last ditch."
"Currently there are at least 600 churches and 500,000–1,000,000 Christians in Iran." There are no churches in Saudi Arabia, not a single one and Christianity is a banned religion. These are our allies?
Mr. Jefferson wrote that "he feared for his country when he remembered that God is just." He meant Virginia but I fear in the same way for the United States.
Soleimani saved Christians, Muslims, Jews and secular Syrians from the Saudi Arabian ISIS head-choppers. This is the reality on the ground in Syria and why killing him will unify many around Iran. Soleimani worked with Americans as needed to defeat ISIS, full well knowing that America vacillates between arming and giving air-support to ISIS and bombing them. The killing of Soleimani will allow ISIS breathing space to regroup and become the US's proxy force again.
3) The key aftermath of this assassination is that Iran must respond. Soleimani was both a cultural and military lynch-pin, that feeling for revenge will run high, this is what the US wants, some sort of clear Iranian with American casualties that will allow Trump to do a bombing run. Between economic strangulation, blatant killings of generals, apocalyptic threats, Iranians are right to be scared - and angry at those who think nothing of threatening their wives with bombs and starving their children with sanctions. In this lens, the massive up-swelling of popular support the Iran states has might make it more to take a risk.
4) I don't see impeachment going anywhere but there is an election in November. Trump's recent tweets about "as long as he is in the White House Iran won't get nukes" and his recent lackluster speeches suggest a man worried about re-election. The idea of being a 'war-time president' for election purposes is not new - it drove Bush Jr. to launch his insane folly in Iraq - so we should keep an eye on how much domestic politics drive foreign criminal adventures.
Conclusion
http://thesaker.is/america-escalates-its-democratic-oil-war-in-the-near-east/ wrote:What makes America’s oil war in the Near East “democratic” is that this is the only kind of war a democracy can fight – an air war, followed by a vicious terrorist army (ISIS) that makes up for the fact that no democracy can field its own army in today’s world. The corollary is that, terrorism has become the “democratic” mode of warfare.
Iran's oil nationalization, attempts to de-dollarize and resistance to the Anglo-American-Israeli Empire, combined with its lack of nuclear weapons, make it the USA's main target. Iran's fundamental crime is national independence.
With this target assassination the US has burnt most of the 'soft power' tentacles they had in Iran, what they bought at this high price was first, a severe degrading of Iran's ability to fight ISIS and project force when neighbour ask for assistance, and second, the increased likelihood that Iran will retaliate and cause American causalities, justifying further US retaliation.
The Neo-Cons have been planning this like they planned Iraq. Trump has ripped up the nuclear treaty, levied a massive economic embargo, and declared all Iran special forces (the IRGC) as 'legitimate terrorists to be killed' which is how they justified the current assassination - these were all neo-con ideas as promoted through their think-tanks. On January 1st 2020, arch neo-con James Woolsey appeared on TV to suggest "we ought to target all of the facilities of the IRGC", two days later, Trump order Gen. Soleimani, the head of the IRGC, to be assassinated. Woolsey has said that they are not thinking on a ground war but a massive bombing run.
The state of US civil society (media, courts, politics, Democratic party) is so pathetic and quasi-fascist that the majority of Americans who answered a poll supported Trump ordering his made-men to wack a major Iranian leader. Trump's rally are a combination of WWF and evangelical pomp, where he spews his brand of 'populist Neo-conservatism' and Republican voters lavish adoration upon Their Dear Leader. There are 350 anti-war protests too - but they will not make a dent or even be reported by the news. The Democratic Party enables the whole sick game, portraying themselves as Moderate Republicans and using MI5-written smears to go after Trump, the mere fact Joe Biden is still a front-runner is a testament to the Democrats being a corpse of a party that seems welling to let the 'Crazy Don' scenario play to the bitter end.
The world stage is harder to read. Russia and China are no friend of the US but might be glad to see it get tied down in West Asia. There has been a re-alignment for Turkey and Qatar toward Iran which might be making Israel nervous.
And that commercial plane crash that occurred between Iran and Ukraine on the night of Iran symbolic shelling of a US base in Iraq? Who knows? I won’t want to be the Flight Investigator on that crash as the conspiratorial minds just reels at the possibilities. If it was just mechanical error no one will believe it - but if it truly was I would place responsibility of their deaths on Trump’s doorstep at minimum for embargoing and starving a country. If it was terrorism or military misfire, I would blame Trump for aggressively destabilizing the country.
The media has gone from 'WWIII!' to 'All is Well' in a week, and I can never disagree with de-escalation, but there is nothing in this analysis that suggests this provocation (or false-flag) won't re-occur until a bombing strike on Iran occurs. Since the assassination has ruled out any popular uprising the most a bombing campaign could do, if ignore Trump's barbaric threat to attack cultural sites, is attack miliatary sites and oil infra-structure to which Iran would respond by attacking Saudi oil production and ships carrying oil through the Persian Gulf. The US wants to control global oil supplies to keep their dollar safe; currently there is too much oil, major fracking and less global energy demand because of (still going) 2008 economic depression have driven prices down. The USA has taken all the Iranian and Venezuelan oil off the market through sanctions and the Saudi's war against Yemen and Qatar has hurt their production, whereas fracking has made the USA world's greatest oil producer again. Any Gulf war would send oil prices sky-rocketing; the corresponding truth is that peace sends prices tumbling - like they did today.
There is a chance this might be like Trump's launching of cruise missles into Syria in April 2017 - a one-time criminal show of strength to satisfy certain foreign and domestic factions. The main facts against this are the heavy neo-con investment in striking Iran and the malleability and disposability of Trump. There are almost no internal forces against this strike: the Republicans are Christian Fascists, the Democrats are hopelessly corrupt, there is some portion of Trump's base that is "anti-war" but they seem to make no difference to the core "47%" who will support Trump up to and including "the Rapture" to save "the Holy Land & the Homeland". The Europeans don't want the war but refuse to take any strong principled stand on the matter - appeasing Trump has largely been their response.
So the real questions are 1) does Iran have a credible non-nuclear threat that can dissuade the US? 2) Will Iran's regional allies support Iran in a conflict with the US? 3) Will China and Russia take any action to prevent or escalate this attack?
Gerald Horne's analysis of the current state of African-Americans would seem also to equally apply to the North American leftists and anti-war advocates: without international support they is not much to be optimistic about - and there isn't enough international support at this moment.
The most likely short-term outcome is that Iraq becomes a proxy battleground between the US and Iran - just as Afghanistan became a US-Russian proxy battleground in 1980 - until some conflict triggers another US attack during the run-up to the election. The US justified the assassination of a powerful Iranian general because a single military contractor, a U.S. citizen born in Iraq, was killed by a rocket fired by some milita, this shows Trump can and will make anything into his casus belli.
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As the Canada comes into the spotlight with the ultra-shady airline disaster, my line is:
1) If it is mechanical malfunction - I blame American embargoes
2) If it is military malfunction - I blame American aggression toward Iran
3) If it is the deep state faction of any nation - I blame Trump for ratcheting tensions providing these sorts of opportunity
Let's go back to Sept. 2018...
Plane crashes are so shady it this cyber-era/drone/micro-explosive era, the general public will not know the truth about this in our lifetimes. As the BBC article shows making the opponent shoot down an ally with their own anti-aircraft weapons seems to be a Israeli technique - just like the targeted assassination that triggered this all. [Rise and Kill First - The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations (Ronen Bergman - 2018)]
This whole move could be some type of trap for Trudeau Jr., a message to his Ukrainian Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland, the war in Iraq could be 'maple-washed' through the 63 Iranian-Canadians* killed and their deaths used to further justify war.
* I refute the PC trope that referring to a hyphened/hybrid identity is racist in itself, Canada is absolutely built on such hybridization and a think that term would emphasize that Canada has a massive Iranian community (...including some MAGA hat thugs and Liberal neo-cons!) and that Canada proudly support their majority desire for PEACE. I don't need a poll to tell me this. I just need to stay away from the Wilfred-Laurier think-tank, Sun Media and anything to the south.
Trudeau Jr., you're a coup-kissing, neo-con coddling, jewish mob-funded pretty boy ... but you legalized marijuana so you are not completely soul-cancer'd, honour the best traditions of the Trudeaus in defending Canada from complete US domination. Signed, a long-time Canadian citizen.
1) If it is mechanical malfunction - I blame American embargoes
2) If it is military malfunction - I blame American aggression toward Iran
3) If it is the deep state faction of any nation - I blame Trump for ratcheting tensions providing these sorts of opportunity
Let's go back to Sept. 2018...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45556290 wrote:Russia has said Syria shot down one of its military planes - but laid the blame for the deaths of the 15 personnel on board with Israel.
The defence ministry said Israeli jets put the Il-20 plane into the path of Syrian air defence systems on Monday after failing to give Moscow enough warning of a strike on Syrian targets.
The Il-20 disappeared off the radar at about 23:00 local time (20:00 GMT).
The Israel Defence Force (IDF) has expressed "sorrow" over the deaths.
Plane crashes are so shady it this cyber-era/drone/micro-explosive era, the general public will not know the truth about this in our lifetimes. As the BBC article shows making the opponent shoot down an ally with their own anti-aircraft weapons seems to be a Israeli technique - just like the targeted assassination that triggered this all. [Rise and Kill First - The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations (Ronen Bergman - 2018)]
This whole move could be some type of trap for Trudeau Jr., a message to his Ukrainian Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland, the war in Iraq could be 'maple-washed' through the 63 Iranian-Canadians* killed and their deaths used to further justify war.
* I refute the PC trope that referring to a hyphened/hybrid identity is racist in itself, Canada is absolutely built on such hybridization and a think that term would emphasize that Canada has a massive Iranian community (...including some MAGA hat thugs and Liberal neo-cons!) and that Canada proudly support their majority desire for PEACE. I don't need a poll to tell me this. I just need to stay away from the Wilfred-Laurier think-tank, Sun Media and anything to the south.
Trudeau Jr., you're a coup-kissing, neo-con coddling, jewish mob-funded pretty boy ... but you legalized marijuana so you are not completely soul-cancer'd, honour the best traditions of the Trudeaus in defending Canada from complete US domination. Signed, a long-time Canadian citizen.
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Canada dominating the BBC World News on Jan 09 2020
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And some more plane crashes to consider over the coming days...
Considering the current geopolitical tension, I believe we will not know the truth about the recent mass-murder of passengers on a Iran-Ukraine flight for decades. I have no wish to discourage inquiry but I do caution any rush to judgement in the notoriously shady area where 'deep state' factions and military accidents proliferate, and actual information and analysis is heavily controlled.
!WARNING! the two twisted heads of the Demogorgon will be viewed below! Their shapes are unstable - 1d4 SAN loss
And some more plane crashes to consider over the coming days...
Cubana de Aviación Flight 455 - Destroyed in 1976 - 73 killed
A DC-8 carrying teenage members of Cuba’s junior Olympic fencing team, took off from Barbados bound for Jamaica. The plane made a brief stop in Trinidad and Tobago, where two anti-Fidel Castro terrorists planted a pair of bombs, cleverly hidden inside a camera and a tube of toothpaste, aboard the plane.Shortly after the attack, one of the terrorists, Hernán Ricardo, phoned Orlando Bosch, a CIA-backed, Miami-based Cuban exile militant who, along with fellow anti-Castro terrorist and longtime CIA agent Luis Posada Carriles, planned the bombing. "A bus with 73 dogs went off a cliff," Ricardo told Bosch. "All got killed."
The CIA, under its new director at the time – none other than George H. W. Bush – knew as early as June 1976 that Cuban exiles were plotting to blow up a Cubana airliner, but did not warn Havana. Ricardo and his accomplice Freddy Lugo were arrested in Trinidad and Tobago. They confessed to the bombing and fingered Bosch and Posada Carriles as the masterminds of the attack. The four men were jailed in Venezuela but Bosch and Posada Carriles escaped. They eventually made their way back to Florida, where they were welcomed as heroes – the city of Miami even declared an official Orlando Bosch Day – and protected by Bush, who was now president. This, despite the Justice Department calling Posada Carriles, the hemisphere’s most wanted terrorist, "an unrepentant criminal and admitted mastermind of terrorist plots and attacks."
Itavia Flight 870 - Destroyed in 1980 - 81 killed
Major sources in the Italian media have alleged that the aircraft was shot down during a dogfight involving Libyan, United States, French and Italian Air Force fighters in an assassination attempt by NATO members on an important Libyan politician, perhaps even Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi, who was flying in the same airspace that evening.[13] This version was supported in 1999 by investigative magistrate Rosario Priore,[14] who said in his concluding report that his investigation had been deliberately obstructed by the Italian military and members of the secret service, in compliance with NATO requests.[14]
According to the Italian media, documents from the archives of the Libyan secret service passed on to Human Rights Watch after the fall of Tripoli show that Flight 870 and a Libyan MiG were attacked by two French jets.[15]
On 18 July 1980, 21 days after the Aerolinee Itavia Flight 870 incident, the wreckage of a Libyan MiG-23, along with its dead pilot, was found in the Sila Mountains in Castelsilano, Calabria, southern Italy, according to official reports
Iran Air Flight 655 - Destroyed in 1988 - 274 killed
Shot down by ship-launched missile fired by US navy. According to the United States government, the crew of USS Vincennes had incorrectly identified the Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat, a U.S.-made jet fighter that had been part of the Iranian Air Force inventory since the 1970s. According to the Iranian government, the cruiser negligently shot down the aircraft, which was transmitting IFF squawks in Mode III, a signal that identified it as a civilian aircraft, and not Mode II as used by Iranian military aircraft.Some analysts blamed the captain of Vincennes, William C. Rogers III, for overly aggressive behavior in a tense and dangerous environment. The event generated a great deal of criticism of the United States.
George Bush Sr. on the Iranian plane tragedy: “I will never apologize for the United States of America. Never. I don’t care what the facts are.”
Pan Am Flight 103 - Destroyed in 1998 - 259 killed
In 2003, Gaddafi accepted responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing and paid compensation to the families of the victims, although he maintained that he had never given the order for the attack.[2] Acceptance of responsibility was part of a series of requirements laid out by a UN resolution in order for sanctions against Libya to be lifted. [Gaddafi has not commented further because in 2011, he was murdered by ISIS jihadists advancing under the cover of NATO jets and directed by NATO special forces, since then all the Libyan gold stockpiles have gone missing...]
Following the Lockerbie verdict in 2001 and the appeal in 2002, attempts have been made to re-open the case amid allegations that Libya was framed. One theory suggests the bomb on the plane was detonated by radio. Another theory suggests the CIA prevented the suitcase containing the bomb from being searched. Iran's involvement is alleged, either in association with a Palestine militant group, or in loading the bomb while the plane was at Heathrow. The US Defense Intelligence Agency alleges that Ali Akbar Mohtashamipur (Ayatollah Mohtashemi), a member of the Iranian government, paid US$10 million for the bombing.
One of the British victim's relatives, Martin Cadman, alleges that a member of President Bush's staff told him: "Your government and ours know exactly what happened but they are never going to tell."
Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 - Destroyed in 2001 - 78 killed
A commercial flight shot down by the Ukrainian Air Force over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv. The accident took place at the time of the combat missile launches during the joint Ukrainian-Russian military air defense exercises. The exercises were held at the 31st Russian Black Sea Fleet Research center near Crimea. Ukraine eventually admitted that it might have caused the crash, probably by an errant S-200 missile fired by its armed forces and paid $15 million to surviving family members of the 78 victims ($200,000 per victim).
Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - Destroyed in 2014 - 289 killed
Destroyed by a surface-to-air missile fired during the 'War in Donbass', the still simmering conflict that began with the openly CIA-supported 'colour revolution' in the Ukraine earlier that year.
Here is the Malaysian Prime Minister's (Dr. Mahathir Mohamad) statement on the: “They never allowed us to be involved from the very beginning. This is unfair and unusual. So we can see they are not really looking at the causes of the crash and who was responsible. But already they have decided it must be Russia. So we cannot accept that kind of attitude. We are interested in the rule of law, in justice for everyone irrespective of who is involved. They are accusing Russia but where is the evidence?"
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Destroyed in 2014 - 239 (presumed) killed
Wikipedia calls it "one of the greatest aviation mysteries of all time" and it is still unsolved - through evidence points towards someone using a cyber-attack to take remote control of the aircraft.
Russian Surveillance Place Il-20 - Destroyed in 2018 - 15 Russian soldiers killed
Syrian anti-aircraft missile defenses are tricked into destroying a Russian military plane.
Russia said Israel's "irresponsible actions" were to blame, saying it was given less than a minute's warning ahead of the strikes, which was not enough time to get the military surveillance plane out of the way. "The Israeli planes deliberately created a dangerous situation for surface ships and aircraft in the area," a defence ministry spokesman said.
The spokesman accused Israeli pilots of "using the Russian airplane as a cover", putting it "in the line of fire coming from Syrian air defence systems". The plane, the spokesman continued, was shot down by a Syrian missile. "As a result of the irresponsible actions by the Israeli military, 15 Russian servicemen have died," the spokesman said.
Considering the current geopolitical tension, I believe we will not know the truth about the recent mass-murder of passengers on a Iran-Ukraine flight for decades. I have no wish to discourage inquiry but I do caution any rush to judgement in the notoriously shady area where 'deep state' factions and military accidents proliferate, and actual information and analysis is heavily controlled.
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This is CIA 'soft power' trying to undermine some of Trump's self-inflicted wounds, or, more honestly, try to secure domestic support from the hapless American liberal population. One poll suggests Trump has an iron-clad 47% of poll-able people supporting him, 10% undecided, and 40% opposed; these Youtube pundits and Twitter-bots are an attempt to fragment that 40%. War-crimes are often presented as 'partisan' issues, so currently all the Democrats (9 in 10) disapprove and most Republicans (8 in 10) approve of the assassination; they parties reversal roles when Democrats are back in power.
If the neo-cons get their airstrike, US troops will be killed in response and support for Trump will be hurt; US intelligence must work to keep some factions of of 'liberal' Americans supporting these wars but Trump make this a tough sell. The four ways I see to keep up 'liberal' support:
1) Keep the corporate media pumping out war propaganda. Liberals think CNN is 'objective' and some their free-times watching and consuming corporate media.
2) Focus on 'Human Rights', 'Western Civilization' and 'Rule of Law' - these meaningless phrases make liberals drool. Remember the liberal maxim, "We kill you because we are your moral betters."
3) Run Joe Biden, let Trump have a second term. Liberals won't like it but they value order over justice and will fall in line
4) False-flag. Trump declaring 'war' does excite liberals; but if Trump can play the American Strongman in response to an attack, they will overcome their disgust. The geopolitical tension and servile media mean that even a modest attack would be enough. And there is all the chance Iran may actually attack in response to the assassinations as per the USA's 'forcing Pearl Habour' strategy with IRan.
It is not just domestic support being manipulated by US intelligence, they are also sponsoring counter-protests in Iraq against the demand for the removal of US troops and have they launched Arabic language twitter-swarms to support these 'astro-turf' (i.e 'fake grassroots') mobs.
So all the "manufactured support" cultivated during the Obama is being deployed to help Trump, but it's up against the real human emotion of revenging the actions of a criminal empire occupying the region.
'Beautiful military equipment' does not rule the world: people do - Iranian Foreign Minister [https://twitter.com/i/status/1215117784801214465]
Underneath all the hype this is about the sovereignty of Syria, Libya, Iran and Iraq versus an aggressive US empire. The US was a one-time revolutionary power that has spent most of its' 200 year conducting counter-revolutionary wars. Only Americans were allowed to throw for the chains of colonial oppression, everyone else must be double-chained, triple-padlocked and hooded by American troops if they dare suggest "The Phillipines for Filipinos, Vietnam for the Vietnamese, Syria for Syrians, Iran for Iranians, ect...." No - the Anglo-American Empire brings the "freedom" of colonial slavery because they are so morally superior that enslavement by them is a boon. I'm not talking about a super-power acting as a neutral broker between ethic factions; I'm talking about the piles of dead kids from B-52 strikes on nationalists across this planet.
This is CIA 'soft power' trying to undermine some of Trump's self-inflicted wounds, or, more honestly, try to secure domestic support from the hapless American liberal population. One poll suggests Trump has an iron-clad 47% of poll-able people supporting him, 10% undecided, and 40% opposed; these Youtube pundits and Twitter-bots are an attempt to fragment that 40%. War-crimes are often presented as 'partisan' issues, so currently all the Democrats (9 in 10) disapprove and most Republicans (8 in 10) approve of the assassination; they parties reversal roles when Democrats are back in power.
If the neo-cons get their airstrike, US troops will be killed in response and support for Trump will be hurt; US intelligence must work to keep some factions of of 'liberal' Americans supporting these wars but Trump make this a tough sell. The four ways I see to keep up 'liberal' support:
1) Keep the corporate media pumping out war propaganda. Liberals think CNN is 'objective' and some their free-times watching and consuming corporate media.
2) Focus on 'Human Rights', 'Western Civilization' and 'Rule of Law' - these meaningless phrases make liberals drool. Remember the liberal maxim, "We kill you because we are your moral betters."
3) Run Joe Biden, let Trump have a second term. Liberals won't like it but they value order over justice and will fall in line
4) False-flag. Trump declaring 'war' does excite liberals; but if Trump can play the American Strongman in response to an attack, they will overcome their disgust. The geopolitical tension and servile media mean that even a modest attack would be enough. And there is all the chance Iran may actually attack in response to the assassinations as per the USA's 'forcing Pearl Habour' strategy with IRan.
It is not just domestic support being manipulated by US intelligence, they are also sponsoring counter-protests in Iraq against the demand for the removal of US troops and have they launched Arabic language twitter-swarms to support these 'astro-turf' (i.e 'fake grassroots') mobs.
So all the "manufactured support" cultivated during the Obama is being deployed to help Trump, but it's up against the real human emotion of revenging the actions of a criminal empire occupying the region.
'Beautiful military equipment' does not rule the world: people do - Iranian Foreign Minister [https://twitter.com/i/status/1215117784801214465]
Underneath all the hype this is about the sovereignty of Syria, Libya, Iran and Iraq versus an aggressive US empire. The US was a one-time revolutionary power that has spent most of its' 200 year conducting counter-revolutionary wars. Only Americans were allowed to throw for the chains of colonial oppression, everyone else must be double-chained, triple-padlocked and hooded by American troops if they dare suggest "The Phillipines for Filipinos, Vietnam for the Vietnamese, Syria for Syrians, Iran for Iranians, ect...." No - the Anglo-American Empire brings the "freedom" of colonial slavery because they are so morally superior that enslavement by them is a boon. I'm not talking about a super-power acting as a neutral broker between ethic factions; I'm talking about the piles of dead kids from B-52 strikes on nationalists across this planet.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander wrote:Ryan Crocker, the American Ambassador to Iraq from 2007 to 2009, got a similar feeling. During the Iraq War, Crocker sometimes dealt with Suleimani indirectly, through Iraqi leaders who shuttled in and out of Tehran. Once, he asked one of the Iraqis if Suleimani was especially religious. The answer was “Not really,” Crocker told me. “He attends mosque periodically. Religion doesn’t drive him. Nationalism drives him, and the love of the fight.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-strike-kills-qassem-soleimani-irans-most-important-military-commander wrote:The Iranian-American author and commentator Hooman Majd expected violent retaliation, as he said Soleimani is perceived within Iran as a nationalist figure who has fought in Iran’s wars since the 1980s. “It’s an incredibly dangerous escalation, not thought through, and certainly the chances of retaliation in places where Iran has the ability to retaliate, such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, the Persian Gulf states, would lead one to believe American government officials or soldiers are potentially in danger,” Majd said.
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Amerikka wrote:“Alexa, play ‘Another One Bites the Dust,’” tweeted Trump 2020 rapid-response staffer Abigail Marone. The post was retweeted by Team Trump’s principal deputy comms director Erin Perrine. “THIS is what strong foreign policy looks like.”
Alexa - give me of summary of US "foreign policy" over the last 20 years....
As for Farrokh Bulsara (and his flamboyent persona 'Freddie Mercury')...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/roots-asia-africa-freddie-mercury-left-legacy-influenced-his-background-n926286
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/24/real-freddie-mercury-bohemian-rhapsody
“This is the thing with Freddie Mercury: I think he operated in at least four closets in his life,” said Jason King, an Associate Professor at New York University’s Clive Davis Institute of Music.
King notes that two of those closets — which revolve around his sexuality and, later, his AIDS diagnosis — have been widely written about. Lesser known are the closets that contained his race and nationality.
Mercury’ came from the Indian Parsi community, who first came to India from Iran in the eighth century to escape religious persecution as Islam replaced Zoroastrianism as the dominant religion in the region. He wasn’t particularly devout later in life, but when he died, almost all his belongings were burned in accordance with Zoroastrian teaching. One factor as to why Mercury did not open up more about his identity could have been the political situation in the United Kingdom in the 1960s. “His life in London was basically in exile from his life in Zanzibar,” said King. “I’m sure he was happy to be in London because it’s an exciting place to be in the mid-1960s, but it was also a place of incredible migrant hostility.” Mercury faced racist abuse while working as a baggage handler at Heathrow and from audience members at early gigs.
“His life in London was basically in exile from his life in Zanzibar,” said King. “I’m sure he was happy to be in London because it’s an exciting place to be in the mid-1960s, but it was also a place of incredible migrant hostility.” “He like so many postcolonial subjects who displace themselves, became highly English,” said King, pointing things like Mercury’s wearing the Union Jack during concerts and the name he chose for the band itself. Mercury said, “I’m not going to be an Eva Perón. I don’t want to go down in history worried about, ‘My god, I hope they realise that, after I’m dead, I’ve created something or I was something.’ I’ve been having fun.”
His boarding-school teachers and classmates gave him the nickname Freddie, which his parents then also adopted. The mythical Mercury the world came to know began to take shape in 1970. Queen bandmate Brian May has said that it’s tied to the lyrics of their song “My Fairy King,” which mentions a “Mother Mercury” in the final moments. “He said, ‘I am going to become Mercury, as the mother in this song is my mother,’” May said, according to Lesley-Ann Jones’ book “Mercury: An Intimate Biography of Freddie Mercury.” “And we were like, ‘Are you mad?’”
Queen’s greatest song of all – the astonishing Don’t Stop Me Now – was a direct product of his hedonism and promiscuity: an unrepentant, joyous, utterly irresistible paean to gay pleasure-seeking. You find yourself wondering if its title might not have been aimed at his censorious bandmates. The standard line is that Queen scuppered their own career in the US by dressing in drag for the video of 1984’s I Want to Break Free, but four years earlier on the tour that followed the release of The Game, fans threw razors on stage in an apparent attempt to get Mercury to shave off the moustache, to look less gay. In Rolling Stone magazine, bassist John Deacon as good as admitted that Mercury’s appearance was alienating a US audience that was traditionally prickly about homosexuality. In his final months dying from AIDS he faced an aggressive reaction to his illness lead by the brutally rightwing British tabloid media.
In his autobiography Head On, Julian Cope recounts the experience of supporting Queen at Milton Keynes Bowl in 1982, as part of the Teardrop Explodes, and being showered with homophobic abuse by their fans. “[They] shouted, ‘Fuck off, you queer!’ at me,” recalled an incredulous Cope. “Wow, they dig Monsieur Freddie and they call me queer. So much for the workings of the average mind.”
So the Anglo-Parsi Farrokh Bulsara was engaging in some of... queer, post-colonial 'minstrel show' called 'Queen' (?!) - which went totally over-the-head of all his American fans but straight into their pocket-books. American's still love these 'minstrel shows' - especially Republicans.
I have never read a book as weird as human history.
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To repeat my views from last night: They might be trying to 'maple-leaf wash' the coming attack on Iran. This would mean that the US would be attacking Iran to avenge Liberal Canada - or worse, Trudeau Jr. requesting that the US do this.
Look at the bot-swarms, failed Liberal candidates and Youtube pundits - this is the US Empires attempt to shore up some liberal support after having just committed a heinous war-crime.
I have no faith in 'liberals' or 'Liberal's to resist these attempts, because surrendering to the Hard Right has become a defining characteristic of liberals in my lifetime.
The supernatural ability of "(neo)conservatives" to be more corrupt and slavish than this type revolting "(neo)liberalism" is the defining dynamic of the "Western Civilization"....
Look at the bot-swarms, failed Liberal candidates and Youtube pundits - this is the US Empires attempt to shore up some liberal support after having just committed a heinous war-crime.
I have no faith in 'liberals' or 'Liberal's to resist these attempts, because surrendering to the Hard Right has become a defining characteristic of liberals in my lifetime.
The supernatural ability of "(neo)conservatives" to be more corrupt and slavish than this type revolting "(neo)liberalism" is the defining dynamic of the "Western Civilization"....
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Let's deepen the plot...
The above article is from the shady zerohedge.com but it is based on this real fact:
On January 3, major media all over the world reported that Iranian IRGC leader Qasem Soleimani had been killed in Baghdad by a U.S. drone strike. But Soleimani, according to the Washington Post, wasn’t the only Iranian official U.S. forces targeted that day: another was Abdul Reza Shahlai, an Iranian military commander who, like Soleimani, was a member of Iran’s elite Quds Force.
Shahlai was targeted in war-torn Yemen. But unlike Soleimani, he escaped with his life, the Post reports.
“The unsuccessful operation may indicate that the Trump administration’s killing of Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani last week was part of a broader operation than previously explained, raising questions about whether the mission was designed to cripple the leadership of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps or solely to prevent an imminent attack on Americans as originally stated,” John Hudson, Missy Ryan and Josh Dawsey report in the Post.
A senior U.S. official, interviewed on condition of anonymity, told the Washington Post that President Donald Trump’s administration has been quiet about the operation in Yemen because it didn’t go well. The official asserted, “If we had killed him, we’d be bragging about it that same night.”
[https://www.alternet.org/2020/01/trump-administration-targeted-another-senior-iranian-official-when-suleimani-was-killed-but-that-mission-failed/]
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- The Iraqi prime minister, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, has revealed details of his interactions with Trump in the weeks leading up to Soleimani’s assassination in a speech to the Iraqi parliament. He tried to explain several times on live television how Washington had been browbeating him and other Iraqi members of parliament to toe the American line, even threatening to engage in false-flag sniper shootings of both protesters and security personnel in order to inflame the situation, recalling similar modi operandi seen in Cairo in 2009, Libya in 2011, and Maidan in 2014. The purpose of such cynicism was to throw Iraq into chaos.
Here is the reconstruction of the story:
[Speaker of the Council of Representatives of Iraq] Halbousi attended the parliamentary session while almost none of the Sunni members did. This was because the Americans had learned that Abdul-Mehdi was planning to reveal sensitive secrets in the session and sent Halbousi to prevent this. Halbousi cut Abdul-Mehdi off at the commencement of his speech and then asked for the live airing of the session to be stopped. After this, Halbousi together with other members, sat next to Abdul-Mehdi, speaking openly with him but without it being recorded. This is what was discussed in that session that was not broadcast:
Abdul-Mehdi spoke angrily about how the Americans had ruined the country and now refused to complete infrastructure and electricity grid projects unless they were promised 50% of oil revenues, which Abdul-Mehdi refused.
The complete (translated) words of Abdul-Mahdi’s speech to parliament:
This is why I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead. Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.
Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me.
I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.
After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.
Nobody imagined that the threat was to be applied to General Soleimani, but it was difficult for Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi to reveal the weekslong backstory behind the terrorist attack.
I was supposed to meet him [Soleimani] later in the morning when he was killed. He came to deliver a message from Iran in response to the message we had delivered to the Iranians from the Saudis.
We can surmise, judging by Saudi Arabia’s reaction, that some kind of negotiation was going on between Tehran and Riyadh:
The Kingdom’s statement regarding the events in Iraq stresses the Kingdom’s view of the importance of de-escalation to save the countries of the region and their people from the risks of any escalation.
Above all, the Saudi Royal family wanted to let people know immediately that they had not been informed of the US operation:
The kingdom of Saudi Arabia was not consulted regarding the US strike. In light of the rapid developments, the Kingdom stresses the importance of exercising restraint to guard against all acts that may lead to escalation, with severe consequences.
And to emphasize his reluctance for war, Mohammad bin Salman sent a delegation to the United States. Liz Sly, the Washington Post Beirut bureau chief, tweated:
Saudi Arabia is sending a delegation to Washington to urge restraint with Iran on behalf of [Persian] Gulf states. The message will be: ‘Please spare us the pain of going through another war’.
What clearly emerges is that the success of the operation against Soleimani had nothing to do with the intelligence gathering of the US or Israel. It was known to all and sundry that Soleimani was heading to Baghdad in a diplomatic capacity that acknowledged Iraq’s efforts to mediate a solution to the regional crisis with Saudi Arabia.
It would seem that the Saudis, Iranians and Iraqis were well on the way towards averting a regional conflict involving Syria, Iraq and Yemen. Riyadh’s reaction to the American strike evinced no public joy or celebration. Qatar, while not seeing eye to eye with Riyadh on many issues, also immediately expressed solidarity with Tehran, hosting a meeting at a senior government level with Mohammad Zarif Jarif, the Iranian foreign minister. Even Turkey and Egypt, when commenting on the asassination, employed moderating language.
The above article is from the shady zerohedge.com but it is based on this real fact:
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Don Trump (Speech on January 8, 2020) wrote:For far too long — all the way back to 1979, to be exact — nations have tolerated Iran’s destructive and destabilizing behavior in the Middle East and beyond. Those days are over. Iran has been the leading sponsor of terrorism, and their pursuit of nuclear weapons threatens the civilized world. We will never let that happen.
The civilized world must send a clear and unified message to the Iranian regime: Your campaign of terror, murder, mayhem will not be tolerated any longer. It will not be allowed to go forward.
Today, I am going to ask NATO to become much more involved in the Middle East process.
Maj. Danny Sjursen, US Army (ret.) wrote: Back in 1941, though Tehran declared neutrality in the world war, Russia and Britain jointly invaded and occupied the country to secure control of its oil reserves. Then, in 1953, when a democratically elected prime minister – Mohammad Mossadegh – dared nationalize Iranian oil (which had been largely under Western corporate control) the CIA coordinated a coup with MI6 to overthrow the government. The dictatorial Shah was promptly put in power and ruled with an iron fist for the next 26 years. America had armed, funded, and backed this brutal regime for two and a half decades.
And that, folks, an aggressive, illegal, intervention to overthrow an elected government – one of the most intrusive sins in foreign affairs – amounts to checkmate in the blame-game: Uncle Sam started it! You know something else? That still matters…
This is not to say Iran hasn’t played a nefarious part of its own, or that there was zero blood on Soleimani’s hands, or that there aren’t human rights violations within the Islamic State. My narrow – but profoundly consequential – assertion is simply this: between the two adversaries, it was the United States that "started" this war.
George Galloway wrote: A recurring line [Trump] used and which has not yet been much discussed in the “Orientalised” West which struck me as worth dissecting.
Iran was in conflict with the “civilized world” he said, and more than once. That Trump first of all sees himself as “civilized” is surprising. It would be hard to name a single US president with a lower cultural level than the host of The Apprentice - but if he is the “civilised” one in this confrontation then who are the barbarians?
Iran was the centre of a vast civilisation stretching all the way to Greece millennia before the first settlers representing Trump’s civilisation even arrived in the “New World.” Did he mean China, a centre of the world for thousands of years? Or Russia, the land of Dostoyevsky, of Pushkin, of Mayakovsky? Did he mean France and Germany which continue to struggle to rescue the Iran nuclear deal and which semi-publicly seethes over Trump’s brutish simian conduct?
In fact, the only two countries actually supporting Trump’s actions on the Iran front (and one of them under duress) are Saudi Arabia, actually in a state of fear and alarm about where all this might lead, and Israel!
If Trump, Netanyahu, and the Saudi royal family really constitute the “civilized world” then humanity is in even more trouble than we thought.
In fact, one definition of a “civilized world” might usefully be those who are fighting the Black Hundreds of ISIS and Al Qaeda, the mediaeval obscurantists whose black banners so nearly flew over Damascus and Baghdad. But that definition would have had to include General Soleimani, who hammered ISIS and Al Qaeda.
Another definition of a civilized world might be those who are working to denuclearize the world, to make and stick to new treaties which gradually eliminate the existential threat of nuclear weapons - but that definition would have to exclude Trump.
Perhaps the safest definition of a “civilised world” would be a world in which states do not make aggressive war against other states, do not seek to destroy the governments of other states. States which eschew hegemony and the naming of centuries after themselves. A civilised world in which international law is obeyed and not trashed, a world in which no state occupies, oppresses, or exploits another. A “rules-based order” as the true barbarians currently describe themselves.
The hordes of Genghis Khan were way more civilised than them.
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There is no "Western Civilization" in North America - we are ruled by game-show hosts and endless war-profiteering; look at any comment section to see the festering filth we've breed though corporate media and internet scum-sites.
There is no "rule-of-law" - everything is plea-bargins, prisons packed with the mentally-ill and addicts, the rich are untouched.
"Science" and "labour" are enslaved to the goals of Fortress North America, universities run by the corporations and military, unions broke or class-traitors.
"Free Speech" means white male professors making 100k+ endlessly whining that a female student disagreed with them. Actually debate is non-existent, the United Nation is locked-down against also ethical norms and legal standards, Twitter blocks who the US tells them, FAcebook is 'walled garden' of cultural cancer.
I don't what the rest of the world looks like - but our culture has less and less ever day to boast about and a larger pile of murdered humans to justify.
Many of the people are "nice" - but 'nice' ain't about to stop endless neo-colonialism or growing fascism.
Many of my opinions and beliefs have deeply changed since my 'angry young man' period but my belief in the nightmarish nature of the American Empire and the eager complicity of Canada has grown stronger.
These are unaltered photos of the leadership of the Zionist_Anglo_American Empire.
History will not be kind.
There is no "rule-of-law" - everything is plea-bargins, prisons packed with the mentally-ill and addicts, the rich are untouched.
"Science" and "labour" are enslaved to the goals of Fortress North America, universities run by the corporations and military, unions broke or class-traitors.
"Free Speech" means white male professors making 100k+ endlessly whining that a female student disagreed with them. Actually debate is non-existent, the United Nation is locked-down against also ethical norms and legal standards, Twitter blocks who the US tells them, FAcebook is 'walled garden' of cultural cancer.
I don't what the rest of the world looks like - but our culture has less and less ever day to boast about and a larger pile of murdered humans to justify.
Many of the people are "nice" - but 'nice' ain't about to stop endless neo-colonialism or growing fascism.
Many of my opinions and beliefs have deeply changed since my 'angry young man' period but my belief in the nightmarish nature of the American Empire and the eager complicity of Canada has grown stronger.
BEHOLD THE GLORY OF THE ZIONIST ANGLO_AMERICAN EMPIRE
These are unaltered photos of the leadership of the Zionist_Anglo_American Empire.
History will not be kind.
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So Steve Bannon, the ex-Navy turned Reaganite Cultist currently building a Catholic-Fascist movement to topple China, is back to opine...
Ah, yes, 50 years of the "new hitler...new hitler.....new hitler...." skipping record called neo-conservatism.
Can we talk about Europe's appeasement of Trump? The corporate media will NEVER ever use 'appeasement' about a WHITE head of state, which is how it was first applied.
All the 'Hitler's since Hitlers have been had much darker skin tones - every single one of them - hmmmmm.... luck for us there are no longer any white nations aggressively attacking and invading other countries in all defiance of international law....
That why I call it the ANGLO-American Empire, too many (Cecil) Rhodes Scholars running the US 'Deep State' for it not to be Anglified. There *IS* some truth to those American isolationists how blame their countries woes on their entanglement with England. No US intervention in WW > no unfair peace treaty > no WWII. If the US had not suddenly joined the war in 1917, Germany would have to been bargained with by England not dictated to. Studying James Woolsey showed how important English education was for US elites with Rhodes Scholarship leading the US during the Clinton year. The Neo-con hive of 'The Atlantic Council' is a aptly named.
The antiquarian English want to be Greece to the America's Rome. If you get that analogy I think you understand a good chuck of the 'special relationship'. And Canada right in the middle of Perfidious Albion and Amerikkka, holding the bullies' coats as a good colony should. We do their banking too.
All we can do is hope that the compliant Trudeau Jr. still has some shred of Canadian sovereignty in his being. He has given the US heavy coup cover in Venezuela and Brazil and conducted the "target kidnapping" of a major Chinese CEO at Trump's request so it is unlikely. Perhaps the Liberals are playing Jean Chretien 2001 corrupt tactics where the US is given initial support (Afghanistan) so Canada could -sort of- keep out of the bigger mess (Iraq). If so all of Trudeau's first term assistance to the American Empire didn't save those passengers...
"It's a trap that was set to us by Trump, and then it was very unfair, because we paid the price" - Former Canadian PM Jean Chretien []
above is a Canadian PM speaking on Dec, 20, 2019
below is a Canadian PM speaking on Jan, 13, 2020
??"rising tension PARTY"??
here is a Canadian CEO
here are Canadians
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/canada-grieves-dead-iran-airliner-shoot-200112190119102.html
American deep-state dark arts killed those Canadian.
I use the term "deep state" as I learnt it in the 1990s from Canadian professor Peter Dale Scott - the fact the 'alt-right' has now adopted it only confirms the usefulness of this lens.
By 'dark art's I refer to that vast array of covert means and soft power at the US Empire's disposal - from cyber to misdirection to war-bluffs. I could believe that 'deep state' factions within Iran shot-down the plane on purpose and still blame the US for creating this savage chaos by reneging on treaties, economic blockades and assassination.
Canadians are seeing the faces of many dead Iranians this week ... smiling Iranian-Canadians in memorial photos ... this is another sort of 'dark art' - the media - but I'm not sure in the US is control of it... the only common denominator in all this is increased nationalism. Is this the overarching goal?
Fox News's Sunday Morning Futures wrote:
Bannon, 66, claimed that Trump's vision of foreign policy is at odds with establishment politicians in Washington, D.C.
"What President Trump did is go against the established order," remarked Bannon. "The permanent political class's foreign policy was to appease these dictators, to appease Beijing, and that's why saw the rise of China. To appease the mullahs in Iran, and that's why you saw this expansion of Iran with Hezbollah throughout the Middle East.
"Donald Trump said, 'This is not going to happen on my watch,'" Bannon continued. "He's taken a very Churchillian stand, like Churchill took in the 1930s. It's the permanent political class, and the John Kerrys, the Hillary Clintons, the foreign policy establishment, the Neville Chamberlains, they were the appeasers. He went to economic war."
Neoconservativism in a Nutshell - Jim Lobe (2016) wrote:I’ve been asked to give a kind of Neoconservatism 101 over the next 15 minutes or so, which is a big challenge for me. It took seven hours to get through the subject with the Institute for American Studies in Beijing 12 years ago when Chinese analysts were first trying to fathom why the U.S. had been so stupid as to invade Iraq.
So I’ll start by summing up.
If I were asked to boil down neoconservatism to its essential elements—that is, those that have remained consistent over the past nearly 50 years—I would cite the following:
* a Manichean view of a world in which good and evil are constantly at war and the United States has an obligation to lead forces for good around the globe.
* a belief in the moral exceptionalism of both the United States and Israel
* a conviction that, in order to keep evil at bay, the United States must have—and be willing to exercise—the military power necessary to defeat any and all challengers. There’s a corollary: force is the only language that evil understands.
* the 1930s—with Munich, appeasement, Chamberlain, Churchill—taught us everything we need to know about evil and how to fight it.
Ah, yes, 50 years of the "new hitler...new hitler.....new hitler...." skipping record called neo-conservatism.
Can we talk about Europe's appeasement of Trump? The corporate media will NEVER ever use 'appeasement' about a WHITE head of state, which is how it was first applied.
All the 'Hitler's since Hitlers have been had much darker skin tones - every single one of them - hmmmmm.... luck for us there are no longer any white nations aggressively attacking and invading other countries in all defiance of international law....
That why I call it the ANGLO-American Empire, too many (Cecil) Rhodes Scholars running the US 'Deep State' for it not to be Anglified. There *IS* some truth to those American isolationists how blame their countries woes on their entanglement with England. No US intervention in WW > no unfair peace treaty > no WWII. If the US had not suddenly joined the war in 1917, Germany would have to been bargained with by England not dictated to. Studying James Woolsey showed how important English education was for US elites with Rhodes Scholarship leading the US during the Clinton year. The Neo-con hive of 'The Atlantic Council' is a aptly named.
The antiquarian English want to be Greece to the America's Rome. If you get that analogy I think you understand a good chuck of the 'special relationship'. And Canada right in the middle of Perfidious Albion and Amerikkka, holding the bullies' coats as a good colony should. We do their banking too.
All we can do is hope that the compliant Trudeau Jr. still has some shred of Canadian sovereignty in his being. He has given the US heavy coup cover in Venezuela and Brazil and conducted the "target kidnapping" of a major Chinese CEO at Trump's request so it is unlikely. Perhaps the Liberals are playing Jean Chretien 2001 corrupt tactics where the US is given initial support (Afghanistan) so Canada could -sort of- keep out of the bigger mess (Iraq). If so all of Trudeau's first term assistance to the American Empire didn't save those passengers...
Jean Chretien wrote:Former prime minister Brian Mulroney, have called for Chretien to help massage the Canada-China relationship after the targeted kidnapping.
"Chretien knows all these fellows, as I do and as other prime ministers do, on a personal basis. And he gets their attention, as opposed to a delegation of parliamentarians or something who will deal with people at the range of assistant deputy ministers. You don't want that. This has to be dealt with on a high level," Mulroney said.
Chretien ruled it out, "I don't want to be the Monday morning quarterback for anybody."
"It's a trap that was set to us by Trump, and then it was very unfair, because we paid the price for something that Trump wanted us to do," said Jean Chretien in an interview with CTV Power Play.
"It's a trap that was set to us by Trump, and then it was very unfair, because we paid the price" - Former Canadian PM Jean Chretien []
above is a Canadian PM speaking on Dec, 20, 2019
below is a Canadian PM speaking on Jan, 13, 2020
??"rising tension PARTY"??
here is a Canadian CEO
here are Canadians
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/canada-grieves-dead-iran-airliner-shoot-200112190119102.html
American deep-state dark arts killed those Canadian.
I use the term "deep state" as I learnt it in the 1990s from Canadian professor Peter Dale Scott - the fact the 'alt-right' has now adopted it only confirms the usefulness of this lens.
By 'dark art's I refer to that vast array of covert means and soft power at the US Empire's disposal - from cyber to misdirection to war-bluffs. I could believe that 'deep state' factions within Iran shot-down the plane on purpose and still blame the US for creating this savage chaos by reneging on treaties, economic blockades and assassination.
Canadians are seeing the faces of many dead Iranians this week ... smiling Iranian-Canadians in memorial photos ... this is another sort of 'dark art' - the media - but I'm not sure in the US is control of it... the only common denominator in all this is increased nationalism. Is this the overarching goal?
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Re: 2020 - Too late for the Liberals
Listening to Iran-focused podcasts this morning....
1) The US's targeted assassination of a nationalist general and Trump's threats to smash "Iranian cultural sites" has unified many non-religious Iranians with the Iranian state, this undid much of the social chaos sowed by sanctions, Iranian privatization and CIA-funded 'human rights' groups - was this injection of nationalism a bug or feature?
BUG - Trump decided that Soleimani's murder fed red-meat to his base, helped Israeli and ISIS, and had some support among the US military and deep-state and the Brits - so that whatever the cost killing Soleimani would be worth it. [Remember the US can wash it's hands of what "The Crazy Don" was doing.]
FEATURE - The rally-around-the-flag effect might encourage adventuristic revenge by the Iranian state or smaller actors ... leading to a US bombing run. A 'US v Iran' fight also has broader support among US liberal than "Shiites v. Christian Zionists & Fundamentalist Judaism"
??? - There is a simple dynamic, intentional or not, where the actions by hard-liners in one state have the effect of empowering the hard-liners in their opponent's government.
2) What exactly can the US do? Does Trumpist cult really have the stomach for yet another mid-east quagmire that might be sparked by a US bombing campaign? The max-force, full spectrum dominance, 'Crazy Don' scenario is aggressive and has toppled some South American countries but Iran is a feisty revolutionary power fresh from defeating ISIS. Hardware dominance has clear limits so do US election campaign. Trump's 'twitter-launched airstrike/de-escalate' stratagem seems more for domestic consumption than a message of global military power. Talk of WWIII seems overly inflammatory.
3) The podcasts do not emphasis enough how illegal US aggression is - outside of Korea (1950) and IRaq (1991), the US has destroyed other governments in defiance of all the post-WWII treaties and pre-WWII international norms. The US barely even cares amount even internally justifying it's aggression in a legal-framework. Cap-locks time: ANY DISCUSSION OF US ACTIONS THAT DOES NOT MENTION THEIR ILLEGALITY IS COMPLICIT IN WAR-CRIMES. Sorry for the raised voice but this is a key point: attacking other countries is the "supreme international crime".
4) Iran is like Iraq - an educated middle-class country involved in the capitalist economy, often with neo-liberal politics too! Americans like to re-imagine them as part of a "Fantasy Arab-land" always ready to be bombed or to host US sex-tourists instead. Iraqi children went from obesity to malnutrition as their major disease, this is the fate for Iranian kids now. Cap-locks time again: MOST US WARS ARE ANTI-CIVILIZATION.
5) No leftist embraces the Iranian government which has banned all left/labour groups since 1979 and been implementing neo-liberalism (aka privitization and austerity). Similarly, Syria had also adopted neo-liberalism triggering protests leading the CIA to try to exploit those rifts; neo-liberalism is like slave-owning, it make your country vulnerable to outside agitators. I don't see any reason to doubt that Soleimani's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was leading brutal anti-protest tactics, my protest against the same neo-liberal policies in Canada in 2000 saw our special forces (JTF-2) guiding the anti-protest forces against us! Western security forces, having read '1984', n olonger try to kill us because of the media optics, the general weakness of the North American left, and the wide variety of non-lethal weapons at their disposal: military-grade teargas, plastic cuffs, rubber bullets, caging, kettling, batons, CONINTELPRO rumours, blackmail, pre-dawn raids, unlawful detention, onerous court orders, piles of charges from minor affairs, unaccountable police, vexious lawsuits, cyber-surveillance, cellphone jamming, wire-tapping and email reading, well-paid scumbag informants and police provocateurs, and a very compliant, very venial media....
There are NO perfect victims, this is a wild planet with a crazy history that is every nation's foundation, and any nation that has resisted the US is ALWAYS DEFORMED by the endless aggression it receives for its defiance.
This is where the liberal get trapped. This is the 'South Park' ethical crap-put: both sides are flawed, so root for the home-team. This is truly how the war-state is maintained in liberal culture.
Iran's recent history is defined a CIA-MI6 coup in the 1950s, a nationalist Islamic counter-coup in 1979, a WWI-style war against Iraq where the US funded both sides, the US attacks against neighboring Iraq and Syria plunging them into the chaos of ISIS. Let's stop threatening to kill Iran for a year or two and see if they can have have a calmer society before we damn them as "aggressive"
And you can see all the arrogant nervousness of a nation talking their war-propaganda from the dissemination of "FAKE NEWS!" about a complex situation where their countries act is a criminal assassination! "YEah - that guy we never heard of, he was the New Hitler so we had to kill him. Don't you care about 'human rights' in Iran?"
Every North American now vapidly discussing why Iran deserved a criminal attack is doing the moral equivalent of discussing what a rape victim was wearing, or discussing the bad behavior of a freshly murdered child. As ahistorical as they are amoral, the North American chattering classes are the bane of civilization.
So you must adopt a iron-clad principle: THE ANGLO_AMERICAN_EMPIRE DOES NOT GET TO KILL A NATION JUST BECAUSE IT IS FLAWED.
We are all flawed, the USA is 'flawed' to the point of murderous imperialism, mass imprisonment, nuclear attacks on civilians and has been at war for 222 of its 239 years of existence. There is so much judgemental-ness in Anglo-Americans because they are haunted by what the global and historical eye sees in them.
Let the nation-state without sin lob the first cruise-missile or launch the first drone.
1) The US's targeted assassination of a nationalist general and Trump's threats to smash "Iranian cultural sites" has unified many non-religious Iranians with the Iranian state, this undid much of the social chaos sowed by sanctions, Iranian privatization and CIA-funded 'human rights' groups - was this injection of nationalism a bug or feature?
BUG - Trump decided that Soleimani's murder fed red-meat to his base, helped Israeli and ISIS, and had some support among the US military and deep-state and the Brits - so that whatever the cost killing Soleimani would be worth it. [Remember the US can wash it's hands of what "The Crazy Don" was doing.]
FEATURE - The rally-around-the-flag effect might encourage adventuristic revenge by the Iranian state or smaller actors ... leading to a US bombing run. A 'US v Iran' fight also has broader support among US liberal than "Shiites v. Christian Zionists & Fundamentalist Judaism"
??? - There is a simple dynamic, intentional or not, where the actions by hard-liners in one state have the effect of empowering the hard-liners in their opponent's government.
2) What exactly can the US do? Does Trumpist cult really have the stomach for yet another mid-east quagmire that might be sparked by a US bombing campaign? The max-force, full spectrum dominance, 'Crazy Don' scenario is aggressive and has toppled some South American countries but Iran is a feisty revolutionary power fresh from defeating ISIS. Hardware dominance has clear limits so do US election campaign. Trump's 'twitter-launched airstrike/de-escalate' stratagem seems more for domestic consumption than a message of global military power. Talk of WWIII seems overly inflammatory.
3) The podcasts do not emphasis enough how illegal US aggression is - outside of Korea (1950) and IRaq (1991), the US has destroyed other governments in defiance of all the post-WWII treaties and pre-WWII international norms. The US barely even cares amount even internally justifying it's aggression in a legal-framework. Cap-locks time: ANY DISCUSSION OF US ACTIONS THAT DOES NOT MENTION THEIR ILLEGALITY IS COMPLICIT IN WAR-CRIMES. Sorry for the raised voice but this is a key point: attacking other countries is the "supreme international crime".
4) Iran is like Iraq - an educated middle-class country involved in the capitalist economy, often with neo-liberal politics too! Americans like to re-imagine them as part of a "Fantasy Arab-land" always ready to be bombed or to host US sex-tourists instead. Iraqi children went from obesity to malnutrition as their major disease, this is the fate for Iranian kids now. Cap-locks time again: MOST US WARS ARE ANTI-CIVILIZATION.
5) No leftist embraces the Iranian government which has banned all left/labour groups since 1979 and been implementing neo-liberalism (aka privitization and austerity). Similarly, Syria had also adopted neo-liberalism triggering protests leading the CIA to try to exploit those rifts; neo-liberalism is like slave-owning, it make your country vulnerable to outside agitators. I don't see any reason to doubt that Soleimani's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was leading brutal anti-protest tactics, my protest against the same neo-liberal policies in Canada in 2000 saw our special forces (JTF-2) guiding the anti-protest forces against us! Western security forces, having read '1984', n olonger try to kill us because of the media optics, the general weakness of the North American left, and the wide variety of non-lethal weapons at their disposal: military-grade teargas, plastic cuffs, rubber bullets, caging, kettling, batons, CONINTELPRO rumours, blackmail, pre-dawn raids, unlawful detention, onerous court orders, piles of charges from minor affairs, unaccountable police, vexious lawsuits, cyber-surveillance, cellphone jamming, wire-tapping and email reading, well-paid scumbag informants and police provocateurs, and a very compliant, very venial media....
There are NO perfect victims, this is a wild planet with a crazy history that is every nation's foundation, and any nation that has resisted the US is ALWAYS DEFORMED by the endless aggression it receives for its defiance.
This is where the liberal get trapped. This is the 'South Park' ethical crap-put: both sides are flawed, so root for the home-team. This is truly how the war-state is maintained in liberal culture.
Iran's recent history is defined a CIA-MI6 coup in the 1950s, a nationalist Islamic counter-coup in 1979, a WWI-style war against Iraq where the US funded both sides, the US attacks against neighboring Iraq and Syria plunging them into the chaos of ISIS. Let's stop threatening to kill Iran for a year or two and see if they can have have a calmer society before we damn them as "aggressive"
And you can see all the arrogant nervousness of a nation talking their war-propaganda from the dissemination of "FAKE NEWS!" about a complex situation where their countries act is a criminal assassination! "YEah - that guy we never heard of, he was the New Hitler so we had to kill him. Don't you care about 'human rights' in Iran?"
Every North American now vapidly discussing why Iran deserved a criminal attack is doing the moral equivalent of discussing what a rape victim was wearing, or discussing the bad behavior of a freshly murdered child. As ahistorical as they are amoral, the North American chattering classes are the bane of civilization.
So you must adopt a iron-clad principle: THE ANGLO_AMERICAN_EMPIRE DOES NOT GET TO KILL A NATION JUST BECAUSE IT IS FLAWED.
We are all flawed, the USA is 'flawed' to the point of murderous imperialism, mass imprisonment, nuclear attacks on civilians and has been at war for 222 of its 239 years of existence. There is so much judgemental-ness in Anglo-Americans because they are haunted by what the global and historical eye sees in them.
Let the nation-state without sin lob the first cruise-missile or launch the first drone.
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