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The Future Under Covid-Capitalism
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Canadians have racked up $5.8M in coronavirus fines, report says
https://globalnews.ca/news/6901033/canada-coronavirus-fines/Quebec leads the way so far, with more than 3,000 fines, per the report. Ontario comes second with 930 reported fines, followed by Nova Scotia with 516 and Alberta with 44.
"lockdown" is a questionable administrative decision to "flatten the curve" to help inadequate health-care systems - to enforced it with serious financial sanction is ridiculous. $900 to $2,000 fines are horrible and a disgrace.
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As we enter the third month of the national house-arrest because of a managerial (not medical) decision to help austerity-ravaged hospitals deal with fantastical statistical projects of massive death, it is time to re-consider any more compromise with this moral panic.
It is now clear that resources should have been concentrated in long-term care faculties not cash giveaways to bank and corporation to help them cope with the destruction of local economies created by a weird nation-wide house-arrest of everyone.
The populations adoption of fantastical fears after 9/11 was a key part of how the worst people were able to get away with so much. The political division between 'dirty-ass deplorables' and the 'spotless sphinctered neoliberal' is part of this moral panic.
* End the house-arrest - and learn the term 'medical authoritarianism' in order to see it when it is occurring. Doctors will be what Soldiers were after 9/11, sources of unimpeachable authority.
* Anyone promoting "blames China" is a war-monger. They are racists selling death and suffering, and Steve Bannon's puppets.
* Any suggestion that we need more austerity to pay for the police-enforced house arrest is the moral cancer at the heart of neo-liberalism. It was austerity that hollowed out the hospital and care-homes.
* The HealthCare systems needs to stop its covid obsession and start doing regular healthcare.
* Populations in danger of respiratory illness need immediate support
* Populations that have been endangered by house-arrest need immediate support
The dark version of the post-Covid world is one of creepy cyber-capitalism and medical authoritarianism during a economic depression, that turns into some sort of conflict with China to restart the economy (like WWII).
The fact that China has nukes protects it from US aggression to some degree but the uncertainty of the US elections, Trump's shambles of a presidency, the practice lock-down of the UK-USA populations, the popping of the economic bubble, mass unemployment and the chance to reformat a culture after any massive group trauma are dangerous conditions.
It is now clear that resources should have been concentrated in long-term care faculties not cash giveaways to bank and corporation to help them cope with the destruction of local economies created by a weird nation-wide house-arrest of everyone.
The populations adoption of fantastical fears after 9/11 was a key part of how the worst people were able to get away with so much. The political division between 'dirty-ass deplorables' and the 'spotless sphinctered neoliberal' is part of this moral panic.
* End the house-arrest - and learn the term 'medical authoritarianism' in order to see it when it is occurring. Doctors will be what Soldiers were after 9/11, sources of unimpeachable authority.
* Anyone promoting "blames China" is a war-monger. They are racists selling death and suffering, and Steve Bannon's puppets.
* Any suggestion that we need more austerity to pay for the police-enforced house arrest is the moral cancer at the heart of neo-liberalism. It was austerity that hollowed out the hospital and care-homes.
* The HealthCare systems needs to stop its covid obsession and start doing regular healthcare.
* Populations in danger of respiratory illness need immediate support
* Populations that have been endangered by house-arrest need immediate support
The dark version of the post-Covid world is one of creepy cyber-capitalism and medical authoritarianism during a economic depression, that turns into some sort of conflict with China to restart the economy (like WWII).
The fact that China has nukes protects it from US aggression to some degree but the uncertainty of the US elections, Trump's shambles of a presidency, the practice lock-down of the UK-USA populations, the popping of the economic bubble, mass unemployment and the chance to reformat a culture after any massive group trauma are dangerous conditions.
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https://www.sudbury.com/police/covid-compliance-600-complaints-lodged-but-only-one-fine-issued-to-date-2276107 wrote:Bylaw enforcement with the City of Greater Sudbury has received a total of 395 complaints with 241 related to social gatherings and 154 related to non-essential businesses open. To date, one fine has been issued to a local business.
Since March 17, Greater Sudbury Police officers have been dispatched to 223 COVID-19 calls for service. In all of the cases, the involved individuals have been compliant after being educated by the responding officers. No tickets or fines have been issued in relation to these calls.
Greater Sudbury Police has seen a decrease of 219 calls for motor-vehicle collisions in comparison to last year from March 17 to April 22.
https://www.nugget.ca/news/local-news/north-bay-police-issue-first-covid-19-fine wrote:According to her Facebook post, a North Bay mother received an $880 ticket Thursday for being in a public park with her daughter. Police say the ticket was the first issued in North Bay for failure to comply with the order. The ticket was given for failure to comply with an order made during a declared emergency under the Emergency Management and Civil Protection Act.
The mother admitted to being in Belleview Park on McGibbon Street with her daughter around 2:50 p.m., according to her Facebook post, Thursday.
“This process involved a police officer issuing a provincial offence notice for this allegation,” a media release from the North Bay Police Service said. “The fine is $750 plus additional court costs totalling $880.”
Sudbury's only fine is to a businesses, North Bay only fine is to a mother & daughter in a public park....
List of # fines given so far
Netherlands - 8.800
Belgium - 27.000
France - 915.000
UK - 6.000
Spain - 837.000
Italy - 418.222
In Fr, Sp and Italy most for "being in the streets for no valid reason"
UK: for "Sitting on a bench"
Nl, Belgium "not social distancing"
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https://policingthepandemic.github.io/table/
These 'covid' charges are the usual confusing grab-bag of municipal/provincial/federal 'crimes' found in Canada:
These 'covid' charges are the usual confusing grab-bag of municipal/provincial/federal 'crimes' found in Canada:
- Covid-19 Municipal By-laws ($750 dollar fines + court fees)
- Emergency Management and Civil Protection Act (declared in effect in Ontario on March 17th)
- Provincial 'Health Protection Acts' (Public Health Act, Public Health and Promotion Act, ect...)
- Federal Criminal Code (for coughing on people)
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Canadian Leadership = Banally Evil Deficit-trolls
Tom Muclair, former leader of the NDP (2012-17), in the Toronto Sun critiquing Trudeau Jr. for "putting everything on the maxed-out credit card of our grandchildren."
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/mulcair-trudeaus-already-testing-out-lines-for-an-election
Now add in...
Trudeau Jr.'s ability to 'trigger' those on The Right (which includes the ex-leader of the NDP) is his best trait ... being an appendage of the Bronfmann crime syndicate is his worst...
Can any Canadian watching the head of the NDP run whining to the TORONTO SUN and the head of the neoConservaties run whinin to the WALL STREET JOURNAL not understand how the world really works?
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https://jacobinmag.com/2020/05/coronavirus-covid-budget-deficit-defense-spending-trump-biden wrote:"Leftists & progressives need to make clear that the era of deficit hysteria is over, that talks of 'grand bargains' are off the table from day 1, & that no cuts to benefits critical to a family’s survival will be acceptable,"
FAIR media wrote:
Deficit concern trolling is an excuse for austerity; no one cares about it — not even the Koch Brothers
Journalist Adam Johnson has joked, “When I die, I want on my tombstone, ‘Nobody actually cares about deficits’.” And he’s completely right.
A leaked Koch Brothers internal strategy memo spells this out clearly. The hard-right billionaires give advise on how to sell tax cuts for the rich: ignore the deficit. Even the Kochs, the most powerful right-wing operatives on the planet, don’t actually care about the deficit. No one does. It’s just a pretense.
At the end of the day, reactionaries don’t actually want to end the deficit; they just want to pretend they’re managing it — while blowing $700 billion per year on “defense” spending.
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It is darkly funny that the USA is already so much a 'war-time' economy, that an actual war wouldn't change the economy that much....
https://www.defenseone.com/business/2020/05/us-defense-firms-hiring-thousands-amid-record-unemployment/165270/ wrote: As U.S. unemployment reached its highest level since the Great Depression amid the coronavirus pandemic, some of America’s largest defense firms are hiring thousands of workers to build fast-flying missiles, satellites and nuclear weapons.
Pentagon spending on missiles, satellites, and nuclear weapons fuels a production boom, as firms fight off commercial aerospace downturn.
Lockheed, the world’s largest defense company, already has hired more than 2,365 new employees since March when many U.S. companies began furloughing or layoff workers amid coronavirus stay-at-home orders. In addition, Lockheed is “actively recruiting for over 4,600 roles,” in 39 states.
Northrop Grumman says it could hire as many 10,000 this year. Raytheon Technologies another 2,000. Boeing, which is preparing to cut 10 percent of its 160,000-employee workforce as the airlines predict at least a three-year drop in sales, is advertising more than 600 open positions in the United States, largely in its defense, space, cybersecurity and intelligence units.
ect....
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Been to the dentist and made a mental note: Treat health care people as cops - be polite, be vague and tell them what they want to hear. Not to be trusted.
I had a pleasant time at the dentist - but it is clear in this COVID era that you must lie to health care personelle just as much as you'd lie to airport security or a cop. Reality is too complex for them and so them must be told soothing lies.
No one has headaches or stomach aches. We all feel fine, all the time. Any other questions?
I had a pleasant time at the dentist - but it is clear in this COVID era that you must lie to health care personelle just as much as you'd lie to airport security or a cop. Reality is too complex for them and so them must be told soothing lies.
No one has headaches or stomach aches. We all feel fine, all the time. Any other questions?
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Hobb wrote:Been to the dentist and made a mental note: Treat health care people as cops - be polite, be vague and tell them what they want to hear. Not to be trusted.
Will be getting bloodwork done shortly. Regrettably, if the right mantra is not uttered in a health care setting while trying to access services, those services will be denied; rightly or wrongly.
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A trip to the vampires eh? Hoping nothing too serious.
Healthcare worker: Do you have fever, cough, headache, soreness and/or runny nose?
Sick Person: No! I feel perfectly fine! Never better, in fact. [Starts doing jumping jacks] See?
Healthcare worker: Ok, you can receive healthcare.
Healthcare worker: Do you have fever, cough, headache, soreness and/or runny nose?
Sick Person: No! I feel perfectly fine! Never better, in fact. [Starts doing jumping jacks] See?
Healthcare worker: Ok, you can receive healthcare.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/21/opinion/sunday/giorgio-agamben-philosophy-coronavirus.html wrote:The emergency declared by public-health experts replaces the discredited narrative of “national security experts” as a pretext for withdrawing rights and privacy from citizens. “Biosecurity” now serves as a reason for governments to rule in terms of “worst-case scenarios.” This means there is no level of cases or deaths below which locking down an entire nation of becomes unreasonable.
His point is that social distancing is at least as much a political measure as a public health one, realized so easily because it has been pushed for by powerful forces.
When a society loses its collective cool this way, the cost can be high. Rich, atomized, diverse, our society has a weak spot, and the coronavirus has found it. “For fear of getting sick,” Mr. Agamben writes, “Italians are ready to sacrifice practically everything — their normal living conditions, their social relations, their jobs, right down to their friendships, their loves, their religious and political convictions.”
With “techno-medical despotism [...] the threshold that separates humanity from barbarism has been crossed,” Mr. Agamben continues.
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My Current Model:
The War on Covid is the NEW War on Drugs.
The key difference is that War against Covid is also hurting conservatives this time
Ain't much fun living in terror of the police, nosy neighbors and informants just because you want to hang out with your friends is it?
This political aspect also explains the ironic success of the new War: Trump's 4-year 'shitshow' and his follower's fanaticism for that disruptive vulgarian was the necessary CHAOS need to launch this new authoritarian ORDER.
Without Trump's incoherent failure as a president and his diarrhetic mouth being given center-stage there would not have been the fertile cultural soil for COVID panic. Without Trump's daily violation of cultural norms it would have been much harder to have such a rapid change.
And now that being 'anti-Covid' is part of the Trump cult it has majorly damaged any popular resistance. The incoherent Trump cult platform of "Hail the President, Hate the Government - Love the Cops, hate the Cops giving Covid fines - Democrats and Leftist must join us to preserve our Freedoms so we can get back to demanding Democrats and Leftists be killed as cultural traitors - our fount of wisdom is Alex Jones and Qanon so trust our critique of Covid - Covid is fake just like Biden's election!" is a massive gift to the medical authoritarians.
First they came for the 'dirty' blacks as I demanded they be locked away
Then they came for the 'dirty' hippies and I hooted and cheered
Then they came for the 'dirty' gays and I celebrated with an assortment of crude gestures
Then they came for the 'dirty' immigrants and their kids - it was about time too!
Then they came for the 'dirty' deplorable.... Hey fuck you!
Help! I'm being repressed! This is most completely unfair action in human history!
Why won't the Leftists I want to murder join me?
The War on Covid is the NEW War on Drugs.
- It employees all the redundant cops by giving them new overly-broad harassment powers to fuck with innocent people - especially the lower classes.
- The medical establishment have clicked their heels and fallenl in line again doing their typical duty of promoting unscientific fear-mongering propaganda instead of rational counsel. Most modern Doctors are Moral Cowards.
- Big Pharam loved the War of Drugs but this new war is a license for them to print money. State-enforced vaccinations = cha-ching!
- Again it is empowered by sheer liberal hypocrisy as they clutch chest in horror at maskless gatherings - and do then do the exact same in the privacy only wealth can by.
- Both are forms of cultural terrorism that leaves most of the population shaking with unfocused but deeply felt fears of being "contaminated" or "detected as unclean"
- And both Wars are wars against openness, compassion, gregariousness and relaxing the vice-grip of a traumatized culture. RAW was clear on this point, the 'War against Marijuana' was the really a War against Maternal Values. So is the 'War against Covid'. No more handshakes and hugs, no more gatherings, no more pub night solidarity, no more openness to strangers.
The key difference is that War against Covid is also hurting conservatives this time
Ain't much fun living in terror of the police, nosy neighbors and informants just because you want to hang out with your friends is it?
This political aspect also explains the ironic success of the new War: Trump's 4-year 'shitshow' and his follower's fanaticism for that disruptive vulgarian was the necessary CHAOS need to launch this new authoritarian ORDER.
Without Trump's incoherent failure as a president and his diarrhetic mouth being given center-stage there would not have been the fertile cultural soil for COVID panic. Without Trump's daily violation of cultural norms it would have been much harder to have such a rapid change.
And now that being 'anti-Covid' is part of the Trump cult it has majorly damaged any popular resistance. The incoherent Trump cult platform of "Hail the President, Hate the Government - Love the Cops, hate the Cops giving Covid fines - Democrats and Leftist must join us to preserve our Freedoms so we can get back to demanding Democrats and Leftists be killed as cultural traitors - our fount of wisdom is Alex Jones and Qanon so trust our critique of Covid - Covid is fake just like Biden's election!" is a massive gift to the medical authoritarians.
First they came for the 'dirty' blacks as I demanded they be locked away
Then they came for the 'dirty' hippies and I hooted and cheered
Then they came for the 'dirty' gays and I celebrated with an assortment of crude gestures
Then they came for the 'dirty' immigrants and their kids - it was about time too!
Then they came for the 'dirty' deplorable.... Hey fuck you!
Help! I'm being repressed! This is most completely unfair action in human history!
Why won't the Leftists I want to murder join me?
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17 October 2018 - Canada became the second nation (after Uruguay) to legalize the marijuana || March 17, 2020 - Government of Ontario declared its first provincial emergency in response to COVID-19
Oct 17 2018 - March 17, 2020 = A year and a half of sanity and freedom
Now back to anal paranoia as the norm
Oct 17 2018 - March 17, 2020 = A year and a half of sanity and freedom
Now back to anal paranoia as the norm
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