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Post by John Grubber Mon 29 Feb 2016 - 10:52

6 wins for Fury Road! Wooo! My favourite movie of 2015.
Sad to see the Martian shut out. It deserved something.
Leo finally got his, but his speech was better than his movie.
Ditto for the director of the Revenant- better speech than movie.
Would have liked to see stallone get it for supporting actor in Creed.
Happy about ex machina getting special effects award- fury road had a ton of practical effects, but the other big nominees (notably starwars) were just more of the same. Read some haters saying SW deserved it, but SW was in no way SFX groundbreaking of dazzling- the originals, yes, but not this one. Needed more lens flare i think...


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Post by Hobb Mon 29 Feb 2016 - 22:12

All the Oscar coverage managed to convey one interesting fact to me through sheer osmosis: Leonardo DiCaprio is older than us.
He was born in 1974.

What is it about the Revenant that so soured you, John?
Here is a review of it that popped up on a leftist site that caught my attention:

counterpunch.org wrote:Which brings us to The Revenant, a tale of revenge based loosely on historical events. But the direction and cinematography elevate this simple plot to an allegorical level. The elements of light and water are mesmerizing and seductive. The harsh retributive human world, where treachery is the norm, love is under constant threat and friends and generosity are rare, plays out in brutal, bloody inevitability before the cold, impassive natural world.

In a recent article, a university professor condemned The Revenant as “a film that glorifies settler colonialism.” This seems to me a misreading of the movie. Glass marries a Native American woman who bears his child. He grieves her death at the hands of white soldiers. Neither the French nor the Anglo trappers are romanticized as anything other than mercenary. Native American leaders in the film castigate all the Euro-settlers as trespassers and thieves.

Iñarritu does not sugar-coat the murderous habits and consequences of the intruders into the North American wilderness. Quite the contrary. Can a film be raw and bloody, yet beautiful and elegiac? The Revenant shows that it can. For its moral and aesthetic complexity, in a stark setting with a simple plot, this film deserves to take home all the Oscar gold it can carry.

Fury Road deserves all the awards it can get. It was 2000AD / Warhammer40k phantasmagoria done with soul. I get the feeling George Miller is an actual human - which separates him from 98% of people in Hollywood.

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Post by John Grubber Mon 29 Feb 2016 - 23:33

The Revenant was, in my opinion, dull. I have seen the same western revenge story done better, for example Unforgiven.

There was beautiful scenery, and some great action scenes, but I found the story lacking. Leo was Leo, as always, except in native language at times. I think this was a 'you've earned it overall oscar', not a specific oscar-worthy performance.

I love history, I love this era, but I was bored. The script had nothing memorable, quotable, poetic etc. in it and the characters were straight out of central casting. Noble savages, dastardly fur traders, conflicted government agent/soldier.

I think the nice neat tidy ending lost me as well.

Its telling when I wouldn't be interested in seeing a historical film again. And its not leo hate- i have enjoyed him in other roles, and I like tom hardy- he deserved the BSA oscar.

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Post by Hobb Tue 1 Mar 2016 - 14:36

Fair enough.

Here is more information supporting my conspiracy theory that actual humans were involved in the creation of Fury Road:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/oscars/oscars-2016-max-max-fury-roads-jenny-beavan-snubbed-in-viral-video-20160301-gn6zbz.html

It is also worth noting that the editing award went to Margaret Sixel who is George Miller's wife. As I pointed out in one of my earliest post it was George Lucas's wife, Marcia Lucas, who edited the original three Star Wars. Here is my post: https://roadtonowhere.forumotion.org/t8-the-soul-of-star-wars

And here is a great documentary on the role of editors in film-marking, not only is editing the great 'invisible art' but there is a surprisingly social aspect to editing as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U76MBDKQe8s

Forcing yourself to detect and evaluated the edits in any video media is one of the major steps to understanding them and to appreciating how central editing is to movies.
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